On America speaks, we try to look at not just the present and certainly not just the past, but we try to look into the future. And my question for you all such a great national sample is, do you expect the next generation to have it better or worse than this generation? America speaks looks for the real voices of real people. Will America’s young people be better off or worse off than those today?
I think they’ll be better off. There’s a lot of advancements in technology and AI, although the younger generation may be a little bit, we’ll say lazier or not as ambitious, but I think their parents have worked hard and will potentially be leaving good opportunity and perhaps some financial rewards for them.
Loretta, do you expect the next generation of Americans to be better or worse off than right now? I
kind of agree with Jennifer a little bit, but then I think about also all the things that are happening now, as far as education that’s being taken away and being dismantled, so I’m kind of worried. So I’m
kind of saying you’re worried. But if you had to make a prediction, will it be better off or worse off?
I guess I would have to say better, better, better. That would be better because of all the new technology and the things that are are advancing and happening for that generation,
Kyle, next generation, better off or worse off?
Worse off this country is $34 trillion in debt. We’re not even taking in enough annual revenue to cover the interest payment on the debt, and unless we find a way to start leveling that out, this country will collapse economically in not too many years from now, being this far in the hole,
Tracy,
will we be better off or worse off in the future, this generation. I think
I think worse, and I think my main reason is, well, there’s two social isolation. I see it, you know, with my, with my, you know, children. I’ve got two boys, and also climate change. I just feel like parts of our country are just going to be come uninhabitable.
Philip, well, that’s, that’s a, that’s a that’s an unusually dark prognosis. We’ll go back into that. John, the next generation will be, they be better off or worse off,
definitely better off with the removal of dei policies, affirmative action, you know, removing biological men and women sports. I feel like the next area will have more options. Hopefully more jobs will be coming back to America instead of being outsourced to other countries. I feel like there’s going to be so many more options for the next generation that we didn’t have.
Alex, better off or worse off?
I think they’re going to be worse off, because our leaders, regardless of who is in power, are not focused on building a better world for them. They’re not focused on climate change. They’re not focused on economics. The cost of living is incredibly high, and it’s only going up year over year, regardless of who’s sitting in office, and we’re not building a sustainable economy or environment for this future generation.
Mayor, absolutely better. The mess is being cleaned up now. I agree with the DEI stuff. I agree with the immigration stuff. I agree with the technology that’s coming forward, those opportunities for these kids coming up and having a 11 year old granddaughter, almost, she’s got more opportunity coming in her future than any of us sitting in this focus group ever had. I don’t see it going anywhere. But better for them. Susan,
oh, like the cliche always is you have to scramble some eggs to make an omelet. I think there’s a lot of things that are going on right now, but we have that we in order to get better, we have to shake things up and start maybe try some new ways of doing things. A I D, you know, especially immigration. I don’t know, but you know, I can’t get any worse, actually. So I we’re gonna have to say it. We can’t, we can’t fall off the floor,
but in our next generation, better off or worse off than today,
worse, because I think the younger people aren’t willing to work as hard to earn things. They want everything right now and or they want the highest salary, they want the big job, they want the big house, and if they can’t have it right now, that they get discouraged. And I think they aren’t as skilled in dealing with people in social situations, because they are hiding behind social media where it’s easier. To have a fake personality and spew more hate and and bias out to things or out to other people. And I think there, through the educational system that a lot of the young people are getting a skewed paradigm of what the world is, is becoming through either dei or global warming or climate change, or whatever it’s called. Jessica,
better off or worse off.
I think worse off our economic situation is kind of bleak, with housing costs, with cost of food inflation. I think all of those things will make it difficult. I mean, I’m only 27 and I, excuse me, I’m 26 almost 27 and you know, just it’s proving to be difficult, and I think the next generation is going to have an even tougher time. In that regard. Drew I
think the next generation will be in tremendously better position than than the current generation. The center of innovation in the world is in the United States. It’s in Silicon Valley. We talk about AI people mentioned that here and the United States, has been able to overcome tremendously challenging problems in the history of of our existence, whether it’s defeating Nazism, whether it’s, you know, reuniting the country, I think we can, we can handle big problems.
And Anthony, yeah,
it’s gonna, I believe it’s going to get better. People are starting to see how problematic progressive policy and philosophy has been. You know that? So when, as they start to have children, they’re not going to want to have boys playing girls sports, and they’re not going to want to have discriminatory policies in any way. You know, we we’ve seen how bad things have become because of dei policy. You know, thankfully, common sense has been starting to rule the day. I
want to ask you. A couple of of you brought up dei as a reason for why things will be better because you don’t have it. Loretta, do you agree with that? Do I agree with dei getting rid of dei
Dei? It really didn’t have anything particularly to do with us as African American. It really beneficial to the Caucasian woman. It really didn’t benefit us to we were like, on the.on the bottom, bottom fold that Dei. You know, much people try to make not a con, like, a lot of noise about Dei. Understand what di understand where it come from, what it is. Same thing with them trying to get rid of books. You know, it’s crazy. It’s just it makes no sense. It makes no sense. Loretto,
no, I don’t know what books are being taken away,
but any book that has to do with African American, homosexual, any any books in any books that they deem that is discriminating. They want to take it off the shelf. They want to get a bit of it’s
not, I don’t, I don’t, in regard to homosexuals, I don’t know, see, I mean, I just, why do we have to learn about that in schools? I mean, like I, you know, I don’t have a problem with what people do, you know, in their own life, but I don’t want children to be learning about those kind of things. And that’s, you know, not just because I’m religious, but because it never was taught, you know, before in recent, until recent history, I see your hand is up.
I just wanted to jump in. You asked Loretta the question about Dei. And I think people don’t understand what dei is. And I feel like, you know, as a as a black woman, I feel like you know, there are people out there, and there are probably people on this panel who look at me and just say she’s Dei,
no, no, no, no. I think you’re really smart person. That’s what I mean. Thank you.
Thank you and I, and I’ve gotten everywhere that I’ve gotten without Dei. Thank you so that a lot of people look at black people and automatically assume that they’ve gotten to where they’ve gotten because of some nebulous thing called and that makes me
really, very angry I got my degrees on my mirror and not. Calls it Dei, and I’m in my position because of who I am and what I
want, and I and I believe that’s probably true
because the DEI,
I think dei actually discriminates against minorities because they’re being hired based on checking a box, and not their own merit or their technical capabilities.
I don’t think it. Don’t agree with that, because, generally speaking, diversity equity, inclusion policies, as we already stated, as Loretta stated, generally benefit white women. But they’re not about people just checking a box to fill in the box. In fact, that’s what we’re all doing here, is literally checking a box so that we can fill in as a representative of some little group. But what these policies try to do is even a playing field that has built, been built unevenly, and generally speaking, they still don’t work for that purpose. So I don’t think anybody is necessarily has a problem with dei policies ending if they’re not benefiting the people that they were set out to benefit. I think the problem has more the fact that people often,
I believe that God created everybody equally in his
mind, but, but the United States did not, and that was actually written into the Constitution. Oh, come on. I think that what we need to understand is that when we say Dei, that is often used as a shorthand for black people. And so when we’re talking about no Dei, no Dei, what? What often people are saying is they don’t want to see black people in positions of leadership or in power. But the fact is, dei isn’t the problem. The way that this country treats people of color is the problem.
I want to hear what Susan has. I
am so sick of affirmative action, and people who are don’t are not. It benefits you more than anyone else. It does not. I’m actually now I am sorry. I am speaking. I am now the minority I am. I’m the best person for the job. I deserve to get the job, not anyone else. Who’s someone of mine was the minority. If you want to be equal, you have to be just as good as everybody else, or you don’t get a job. That’s my thing to say. What’s wrong with you? Why are you yelling at me? I’m not yelling. I’m speaking. Can I speak? A lot
of times they are thinking equality, and it’s not the same thing where equality, that’s exactly equality of opportunity, where equity means equality of outcome.
John from California,
yeah, sorry to call you out, Alex, but I noticed you. You’ve brought up race a bunch of times. I try to view everybody equally. I don’t care. I’m all about marriage. If somebody does well, they do well. I don’t care. You know where they’re from or or how they look. But I’ve noticed you, you’ve mentioned it multiple times. You’re I’m thinking, you guys are the ones that are talking about race, not us.
Well now you’re talking about some problems. With you guys talking about me, so let’s speak to me about your representation, but myself.
Okay, well, I’ll find I’ll talk about you specifically. You brought it up multiple times. Race, race, race, I’m not thinking, I don’t care. I don’t bring that up. I because I don’t care if that’s not how I see people. But I noticed that’s how you seem to judge people by the race, because you keep bringing it up, and that’s the problem. I haven’t
brought up any individuals race. I’ve brought up the way that this country treats certain races because that has been ingrained into our history. I’m not bringing up individual peoples. I’m not saying
it’s the best person who has the best qualifications for the job, special treatment, because you’re a different race. I’m sorry I’m so dumb. Marriage
benefits white people, white white women, more than anybody does it
really, you don’t look like a white woman to me. Man,
correct? And it doesn’t benefit me. And you’re talking about race, best
person for the job. Best person the most qualified for the job.
No decisive for the case, but our defense secretary is not the most qualified for the job, so why should we expect that everybody else is going to be the most qualified person for the job? People hire their friends. That’s what happens. And often times in this country, people happen to be friends with people who love because that’s just how it works a lot of times. And so if somebody who is friends with mostly white people hires their friends for the job, they’re going to be hiring a lot of white people for their job. And that’s just how it is. So I’m not saying that we should hire people just because of their race. I’m saying it happens all across this country, and you can look at the Cabinet members for that example, because not a single one of them are in their position. So let’s not talk about actuality this whole time. Alex, also Linda McMahon, who runs the WWE is qualified. Run the Department of Education, please tell me how
that works. Just because
you’re speaking Alex, just because you’re speaking louder doesn’t mean that you’re speaking the truth about what it is I’m
asking questions, and you’re not even able to answer those questions.
I stopped talking,
and he spoke, and then I spoke back. Ridiculous.
Okay, Alex,
you’re so concerned about how minorities are treated, and you’ve already spoken over every minority on this call for the vast majority about
the white women here. There’s more of you than anyone else. It’s
the Alex show. I want
to know from you all what exactly should be done to ensure that the next generation has it better than this generation. Tamara, I’m going to start with you.
First things first is again, the merit based the education, the opportunities, the workforce. Get rid of these things, as in dei that makes it unequal to so many different people. Why would a black woman appreciate the fact that half of the country is looking at her as a dei hire when the two black women that I have heard on this panel right here earned everything they ever got out of their heart, their soul and blood, sweat and tears. Why would they want to have dei in place to make their hard work diminished?
Loretta, how do you respond to that? I’m going to give Loretta and Tracy. A chance to respond, well,
I agree. Again. I don’t just consider myself dei I work very hard. I raise my daughters their name, both of them are in professional. Are professional. I have one that’s a doctor, one that’s getting ready to become a medical doctor. And guess what? They work hard. They stop moving, and they work hard. And so no, we don’t consider ISO di over here, not in this household at all.
Veronica, you must be a very proud mother. I am
absolutely yes. Ma’am. Gracie, you’re up well.
Tamara, I appreciate what you said. And, yeah, I mean, that’s, that’s why I, I struggle with making sure that people understand the definition of dei because I’m not sure that I understand it all the time either. I think it’s taken up this huge it’s become this huge boogeyman in a lot of people’s consciousness. And they think, they really, really think that, you know, black people are out there. Take it away. Take you know, unqualified black people are out there, taking away their jobs. I live in a universe of black and white and Hispanic, because I live in New Mexico and Native American people, my universe of black people, my family, my friends, none of us are what you would call Dei, none of us. We are all college educated. We are all smart, we are all kind, we are all good people. And it just it breaks my heart when I hear people talking about dei because it makes me wonder if they’re thinking about people like me and my children and my family and my friends.
I’m sorry Hold on. We may have a consensus here. Do they all agree that we should get rid of Dei?
Yes, that’s,
this is the first time that one of these focus groups has dealt with that. I know Alex doesn’t agree, but most of you seem to Okay, let’s move on to another issue. Jennifer, give me another way to ensure that the next generation would get better off than this generation. So
I think I’ll just stick with the manufacturing and bringing jobs back to the US.
Is that tariffs,
maybe just Foreign Investment Companies pledging to to build cars here, whatever the items are that they’re making. Be
more specific. Should we should? Is Trump’s tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back? Yes. Do you all agree with that? No, no, no, okay, we have
the jury’s out.
I think it’s a gamble, but I’m hopeful about it, but
it’s a gamble. I don’t know if it’s going to work or not. It’s
not going to work. It’s never worked. You’re going. To drive up the cost of foreign products in hope that Americans can figure out a way to make products that they’ve never made or don’t want to make anymore. It doesn’t work. It hasn’t worked. We’ve tried it a number of times.
Bernard, well,
having the tariffs are also going to write bring up the prices of manufactured goods in this country, because the manufacturers are all one going to want to unionize, and the unions are going to require higher wages, and it’s going to take years in order for to get the the factories back into here. And plus, are we going to make everything that we need in this country? And I would just pose the question, when was the last time that a television was made by an American company in America? Philip
is the idea of tariffs? Trump’s tariffs good or bad for the next generation of Americans?
When we talk about manufacturing, it’s bad. It takes, on average, three to five years to build a factory, okay, to put it into play, to hire and to set up all the particulars that go along with that. So the tariffs are ridiculous, and China is going to own us for a long time, and China definitely can wait it out. Sarah,
sorry. Susan, about the tariffs. Uh,
we simply do not have all the resources to make all the products that we want in America, whether it be agriculture or technology based, and like Philip was saying, it takes a long time to build these factories. We’re still going to have to import a lot of different products from other countries. We just don’t have the inherent resources to make everything that we want. So
the tariffs, good idea, bad idea. Bad Kyle tariff, good idea or bad idea to improve.
I think the jury’s out on it. Short term, it may look like it’ll have a positive effect, because, you know, we I think it was 125% tariff on certain Chinese goods. Well, that does hurt China. A lot of people don’t realize that, but when you get into a race about it, as far as you know, we keep raising ours, they keep raising their tariffs. I just don’t think right now, any of us really can know what the long term is going to be for that. I have other economic concerns other than the tariffs.
Jessica, you’re the youngest person on this you’re going to live through this longer than any probably tariffs good idea or bad idea for the next generation.
You know, I’m hopeful about them. I think that there’s definitely a lot of risk. I hope that it can help change our our economic situation. Tamara,
I think it’s going to be a positive impact on the next generation and possibly the generation after that. Well, yes, they’re right. It does take three to five years to put together a manufacturing facility, everything else. Nobody is able to make everything that they need in their own country, but to have the battle back and forth with the amounts, how we’re going to pay for it, who’s going to do it, I think is a good solution. We can do a negotiation and get what’s best for us. John,
your reaction to tariffs?
Yeah, I feel like tariffs right now, short term don’t look good, but I feel like long term, they will be a positive. History has shown that tariffs can work. But like I said, right now, it’s it’s too soon, but long term, I feel like there will be a net positive for America.
I want to know about the issue of education. Are we teaching our children what they need to know and be able to do for them to be better adults, for them to be more equipped and completely ready for the world that they’re going to face is is our education system working for our children? I know that some of you have education as priorities, Alex, you’re nodding your head. No, yeah.
I mean, I think forgetting the culture war for a second, because we’re clearly not going to agree on what we teach people about history or the like. But you know, when I was growing up, I didn’t, I wasn’t taught anything about how to do my taxes, how to do a resume or get a job. There are a lot of basic necessities that all kids need to go through, that we are absolutely failing them on, and regardless of any of the other cultural stuff, we are really not preparing kids for what to do when they graduate high school, when they graduate college. We’re just sort of sending them out with a wing and a prayer and saying here, hopefully you make it. And I think we could really do a lot better to prepare, especially because we’ve. Created this system, so why not teach them how to use it?
They need to know the basics, reading, writing and arithmetic. For one you look at our school districts across the country, like one right here in Columbus, Ohio, an inner city school district is gets a failing grade. Cleveland gets a failing grade, and we’re just our kids aren’t even knowing the basics, let alone my my daughter out in Las Vegas teaches remedial English to kids, and she gets some of the kids in her class that have high school diplomas. Well, how do they get a high school diploma when they can’t even read to write their name,
Maria Loretta, you’re in the education system. Is it as bad as Kyle says it is?
Are we talking, if we’re talking lower level, grade level, I tell you right now to me, yes, I think that we need to be treating we need to, I’m sorry. We need to be pushing more training. There’s a lot of students who who cannot learn by a book or sitting in a classroom. Um, some kids really do need training. And so what they have a program here, where I live at where they’ve taken some students, and that’s having some difficulties academically. They take them in this program, and they’ve been training them. So they’ve been training them on computers and manufacturing, and the kids are loving it. And so the kids are coming out the program, succeeding, excelling and getting an actual good jobs. There’s a program here that was an apprentice program where these kids learn how to be plumbers, learn how to be master electrician. Now they placed them. They’re in the union. They’re doing very well for themselves. And these were actually high school students that were having difficulty academically, learning arithmetic, sitting in a class, and they put them in this training program, and now they found that this program is succeeding. So I think we need to start looking at other alternatives across the board, besides sitting in a classroom.
Jennifer, your reaction? Yep, I
was going to say that I agree with a lot of what Alex said, that children are not being taught life skills. And I like what Loretta is saying as well. And I just think that students, as they are in high school, are kind of just being almost force fed that they need to go to college versus, say, a trade school and going down that route, or maybe just considering community college for two years before they go on to a university and rack up debt.
Tracy, you’re up. Yeah, I
just, I was just saying this to my son the other day that I am so happy that he is in his final semester of college. He’s going to graduate in May. I just, I just don’t know what kids I consider myself very, very lucky that I got two kids through college, and I just don’t know what it holds for them. Now, you know, I had the chance to actually teach journalism at college, and I don’t even want to teach it. I don’t even know what I would teach kids these days. I do agree also, though, that with, I guess it’s Alex, that financial literacy is very, very important. And I also agree with what Loretta said about let’s not just focus just on college. Let’s focus equally on trades for kids, because they’re going to need to learn that.
Okay, one more person in education, John from California, yeah,
I was going to bring up exactly what just said. We need to bring back trade schools. I mean, you know, a piece I got in my college degree, six figures of debt, which, luckily, I was able to pay off, but it didn’t get me my job I have today. It meant nothing. I wasted, you know, four years of my life that I could have, you know, could done more internships and things like that, and actually did more hands on. I feel like we need more of that. I you know, I heard I had professors that did try to indoctrinate me things that they taught, that taught me absolutely nothing in life. And so for me, trade schools is a big thing. I want our next generation to be able to go into manufacturing. We used to have trade schools, you know, people build things by hand. Let’s go back to those days.
There are two issues that parents talk about their children with considerable concern. The first one is social media and what it’s doing to how their children learn, how their children process. Are any of you concerned about the influence of social media on the next generation, and is social media making it easier for. To raise kids now are more difficult. I’ll take an answer from anybody here. Go first.
I think people kids are not able to even communicate one on one anymore. Everything is through a technology. You’re you can’t you’re never going to be yourself. You’re not going to be able to talk to people in a one to one situation, whether it be business or otherwise. It’s, actually kind of dangerous. You’re just hiding behind the screen.
Tamara, do you think social media is good for raising kids or bad for its impact on kids? I think
it’s bad on raising kids. There’s nothing real on the internet. We’re giving these kids a false sense of reality, and there, there’s no reason for it. I believe it’s up to the parents. First things first, not the government, not the neighborhood, but the parents to put the limits on the social media and what they’re going to allow their children to be exposed to. But it’s not doing anybody any good. Jessica,
social media a plus or a minus in producing good kids for the next generation, social
media is definitely detrimental. I think everybody under the age of at least 16 needs to be off of social media. I think screen time is another thing. Parents will just put their infants and toddlers in front of a screen, and that just shoots them down the pipeline of being on social media all the time.
Grace your reaction to
that? Yeah, I think it’s definitely bad. I think it has not been good. I don’t agree that there’s nothing real on the internet there. You know, the internet has been, you know, good for curious minds if you want to, you know, do research and and things like that. But as I said before, I worry about the social isolation that I think it allows a lot of kids to just only have those kind of interactions. And I think we’re not doing our kids any favors by, you know, letting that happen.
Loretta, your reaction? I think social
media is very dangerous. And I do agree with Tracy, as far as the social component of it. These kids, they get on there, they start fighting the harassment, the bully. This is crazy. How people get sucked in?
I think in moderation, it can be a helpful communication tool in moderation, but there’s no moderation, and it’s causing anxiety, depression, insomnia. Our devices can cause cancer and fertility. I mean, the list go, go on
these social media companies are all about profits anyway. They don’t. They don’t care about the kids or anything like that. They’re it. Social media is a cancer. It’s leads to hatred, misinformation and division,
and the last issue, and in some ways the most difficult, is the next generation going to have the morals and the ethics that you would want them to have. Are you sure of it? Are you concerned about it? What’s the cause of it? What’s the solution to it, Alex, I’m going to start with you, the ethics, the morality, the values. Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the next generation?
I think I’m pretty optimistic. I mean, I feel like, generally speaking, generations tend to, you know, learn a little bit more than the generations that come before them, and they tend to grow just that little bit. I do think that it depends on a little bit the leaders that are in charge, and I don’t have the the best faith in our current leaders on either side of the aisle to make sure that the young generation learns empathy and kindness and respect. But at the same time, I do feel like, from what I’ve seen from Gen Z and below, they definitely seem to be much more thoughtful and much more considerate and much more curious than I feel like my generation was at the same age.
DREW. Are you confident that the next generation will have the kind of morals and values that you wish them to have?
I’m not very confident they will. I think, I think some back to the conversation on social media. I think that’s influencing that that generation, as well as sort of that siloed information that they can get. I think, I think there’s a lot of I think there’s a lot of risk that they won’t have the morals that we need for them in the next generation. Bernard,
where do you stand on this issue.
I think the next generation, or I would be pessimistic towards the the morality and value, because it’s seems to have been declining, you know, since, say, the 60s, has gone down every generation since then, and the way that say, I. Um, the LGBTQ ia plus plus community has their agenda and brings their things to the forefront. Makes it sound like there’s 80% of the of the children today want to be transgender. And I think the more that that’s gets they put thrown in our face that the more that that things are going to decline. Tamara,
your expectation about the values, the ethics of the next generation,
I’m not very optimistic about the morals and ethics if these kids are having the opportunity now to have to sit in a classroom and read about male homosexual sex, and it’s okay with the school board and it’s okay with the community. To me, that is not morality, that is a personal, private issue between yourself and your conscience, not between the school board and the rest of the ding day neighborhood. I don’t see it happening for these kids, because the adults that are guiding them and teaching them don’t have much. As we sit here and speak,
Tracy, where do you come down on this? Um,
well, I’m, I’m not. I mean, I I’m optimistic, you know, in my own household, but I guess I’m, I guess I’m optimistic. I guess, you know, I am concerned about the role models that they have, you know, among you know, all elected officials and and, you know, movie stars and all sorts of folks. I think you know, morality has gotten very twisted from how it was when I was growing up and going to Catholic school. But I guess I am optimistic,
Tyler, are you optimistic about the ethics and morality of the next generation? Yeah,
no, I’m absolutely pessimistic with the woke culture that’s being advanced, not only in our schools, but by the by the news media, I mean they’re making making it sound like it’s the norm. No, I’m absolutely pessimistic. The future is going to be bad.
Susan, your reaction to this?
I don’t think anything should be talked about sexuality, alternative sexual lifestyles. To anyone under the age of 18, they are not going if they haven’t gone through puberty. There these different messages coming through the internet and through social media is just messing up their their ideas of what they could be. Sometimes they’ll make mistakes. They might even get some sort of surgery that they can’t they can’t do anything about later. It’s just too free, and it’s just it’s not right. School should be about reading, writing, arithmetic and the and facts of history until you’re over the until you’ve matured and you are able to make the decisions for yourself to do whatever you want with your lifestyle, and
Jessica being the youngest person in this group generation, yeah, the morals and the values you wish them to have.
I don’t think we’re headed on a great track. I think the LGBT stuff, especially in schools, I think the whole woke ideology, all of that, is setting children up for for failure. Honestly, I think a lot of it comes down to parents also not taking accountability and not teaching their own children their morals and their ethics, and parents relying on the school system to teach their children about sex ed, about those things, and that is one big, major point of failure. In my opinion,
this is not the end of this topic, but this is the end of this segment. We’re out of time. It’s been very enlightening. It’s been somewhat depressing. I appreciate you having different points of view and not tearing each other apart over it when something involves the next generation, your kids or anyone else’s kids. I know he gets passionate, but in the end, we’re all going to have to work together to get this done the right way, without the ethics morality and the right values, nothing else matters. On behalf of America, speaks here on straight arrow news. I’m Doctor. Frank Luntz, I thank you for watching, and we’ll be seeing each other again soon. Goodbye.
Thank you. Thank you. Bye.
