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H-1B visa program ignites a civil war within MAGA

David Pakman Host of The David Pakman Show
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On his first day back in the White House, President Donald Trump signed a record number of executive orders, including some intending to revise Biden-era immigration policies. However, one program stayed the same: the H-1B visa, which allows companies to hire highly skilled foreign workers. This has sparked a debate between two of Trump’s allies, Elon Musk and Stephen Miller. Musk, who once had an H-1B visa himself, said the tech industry, including companies like Tesla, needs these workers. But Miller, along with MAGA figures Steve Bannon and Laura Loomer, argued the program takes jobs from Americans and lowers wages.

Watch the video above as Straight Arrow News contributor David Pakman explains how this issue is causing a split within the MAGA movement between what he calls the “nationalist right-wing” and the “tech bro right-wing.”

The following is an excerpt in the above video:

On the one hand, you have the kind of Steve Bannons, Laura Loomers. These are folks who do not want more H-1B visas, something that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy do want. They are all about America First in a sort of cartoonified 1950s way that doesn’t acknowledge globalization, it doesn’t acknowledge technical realities, it doesn’t acknowledge a lot of things about today. And they are sort of more of the core of Trump’s 2016 into 2020 base.

On the other hand, you’ve got the tech-bro right. This is the Elon Musks, the Peter Theils, maybe like a Mark Zuckerberg, although Mark Zuckerberg supposedly is not right-wing socially, but he’s cozying up to Trump anyway, maybe for pragmatic reasons.

But I think you get it, the tech-bro right. The tech bro realizes, as Elon Musk does, as Peter Thiel does, as Vivek Ramaswamy does, that they want to be able to bring in folks from other countries with H-1B visas. Are they taking American jobs? In a sense, they are, although Elon and they have argued for a long time that to have the best talent in American companies and to have the companies that are in the U.S. grow as quickly as possible for the benefit of Americans, you do need to bring in smart people from other countries. These are diametrically opposed forces right now.

 

I want to discuss with you today the cracks that are developing in Maga between what I think I would describe as the nationalist right wing and the tech bro right wing. Now I think it’s important to preface this by saying the term right wing is a little broken, and that’s part of what makes this conversation more complex, but at least for now, let’s use these terms, and then I’ll kind of tell you a little bit more about it. On the one hand, you have the kind of Steve Bannon, Laura loomers. These are folks who do not want more H, 1b visas, something that Elon Musk and the big Rama Swami do want. They are all about America First in a sort of cartoonified 1950s way that doesn’t acknowledge globalization, it doesn’t acknowledge technical realities, it doesn’t acknowledge a lot of things about today. And they are sort of more of the core of Trump’s 2016 into 2020 base. On the other hand, you’ve got the tech bro, right? This is that Elon Musk’s the Peter TEALS, maybe like a Mark Zuckerberg, although Mark Zuckerberg supposedly is not right wing socially, but he’s cozying up to Trump anyway, maybe for pragmatic reasons. But I think you get it, the tech bro, right? The tech bro, right. Realizes as Elon Musk does, as Peter Thiel does, as big Rama Swami does, that they want to be able to bring in folks from other countries with H, 1b, visas. Are they taking American jobs? In a sense, they are, although Elon and they have argued for a long time that to have the best talent in American companies and to have the companies that are in the US grow as quickly as possible for the benefit of Americans, you do need to bring in smart people from other countries. These are diametrically opposed forces right now. And of course, there’s a couple different reasons that this is going on. One of the reasons this is happening is because the Republican Party, to their credit, I’ve praised them for this. They’ve made a very big tent. People who wouldn’t ordinarily be political allies have become allied against woke, against d, e, i, against socialists and Marxists and all the crap they believe exists on the left. Now you know, and I know that that’s not what the left is, but it doesn’t matter. Uniting against the common enemy is a great way to grow your base the and to a degree I’ve acknowledged, the left hasn’t been very good at this. You agree on 90% of stuff, but you differ about nuclear power or trans or Israel. All of a sudden the coalition becomes a little shaky. The tent has a puncture in it. So the right has definitely done better on this. Here’s the problem, when the time comes to govern those crack, those differences within Maga start to become very important, because now, is Trump going to reduce h 1b visas, or is he going to increase h 1b visas? We all know that. Okay, fine, the tech bro, right and the nationalist right. Maybe they’re on the same page on trans stuff, but they’re not on the same page on h1 visas. So what happens when Trump has to decide which one of the two things are we doing? And so this fracture is absolutely going to be a real issue for Donald Trump. Reports that Elon Musk is been recently told he’s no longer going to have an office at the White House. He that’s actually going to be across the street. Things aren’t going quite so well. The big Ramaswamy is getting out of dodge or out of Doge, and reportedly is going to step back from CO leading Doge to run for governor in Ohio. So that’s going to be a problem. But this also gets to a bigger issue. The term left wing and right wing, I don’t believe is at all appropriate right now for how the political spectrum is not really a left right spectrum anymore. And I’ll give you an older example that should explain this, by most accounts. Economist Milton Friedman was right wing. He favored low regulation. He wanted markets to decide most things. Obviously a strong advocate of capitalism and all of this stuff, Hitler excuse the extreme nature of this argument. Hitler also considered right wing Hitler’s vision for ultra nationalist Germany and Europe, and the way in which he favored autocratic rule, and that by any definition, that is also right wing, it doesn’t really make sense for our purposes that We go, oh Jewish Milton Friedman and anti semitic Hitler are just both right wing. That’s the description. Obviously, we could go into more nuance, but the point here is, these descriptors are really just not enough anymore. Some argue that a better way to think about it is, are you? It’s sort of like a like a major. Tricks of four quadrants, authoritarian versus libertarian, socially liberal versus socially conservative, and that that will certainly fill in in a better way where people are on the political spectrum. That’s a bigger political philosophy question, but the main takeaway is, when what it even means to be right wing has become really screwed up over the last eight years because of the changes that we’ve seen in the people that have that have gotten involved. It’s not a surprise that all of a sudden, Maga is fracturing, and they are fracturing very quickly. I.

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