President Joe Biden’s characterization of the COVID-19 crisis as a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” has set off a debate about how the country confronts the coronavirus pandemic. On Monday, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki clashed with a Fox News reporter over the issue.

“I understand the science says that vaccines prevent death. But I’m triple vaxxed, still got COVID. You’re triple vaxxed, still got COVID,” Peter Doocy told Psaki, referring to when the fully vaccinated press secretary contracted the virus in October. “Why is the president still referring to this as a pandemic of the unvaccinated?”

Psaki said unvaccinated people infected with the coronavirus were much more likely to be hospitalized or die of COVID-19 than vaccinated individuals.