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Harris staffers’ tell-all podcast: Details beyond media headlines


Vice President Kamala Harris’ top campaign staff spoke out in their first sit-down interview since the election on the “Pod Save America” podcast. During the interview, officials offered new details about the campaign’s struggles.

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Among the revelations were internal polling data that proved damaging for Harris, the reasons behind the canceled Joe Rogan interview and what staffers believe ultimately led to the campaign’s downfall.

The direction of media coverage has differed sharply, with reports shaped by the political leanings of various outlets.

Left-leaning outlets like CNN and The Associated Press focused on the staffers’ comments about the “price to be paid for a shortened campaign,” emphasizing the impact of a limited campaign timeline.

Meanwhile, right-leaning outlets such as the Washington Examiner and The Daily Wire honed in on internal polling that showed Harris consistently trailing President-elect Donald Trump.

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CNN and the AP didn’t make any mention the internal polling in their coverage, while the Washington Examiner and The Daily Wire omitted comments from staffers about the campaign’s limited timeframe.

In the interview, David Plouffe, a senior adviser for the Harris campaign, discussed the disconnect between public polls and the internal numbers the campaign was seeing.

“I think it surprised people because there were these public polls that came out in late September and early October showing us with leads that we never saw,” Plouffe said. “It was basically a race that in the battlegrounds was 46-47, 47-48, so that’s not where we started. We started behind.”

Plouffe and other staffers also expressed frustration with the short amount of time they had to define Harris. They said she was largely undefined at the start of the campaign.

“This is where there was a price to be paid for the short campaign, and you can’t even say 107 days because some of that was spent shoring up the Democratic nomination,” Plouffe said. “You really need to have said everything you want to say before early voting, so we had a little more than two months.”

The Harris campaign also discussed why Harris never appeared on “The Joe Rogan Experience” podcast, despite reports that talks had taken place.

“We had discussions with Rogan’s team, they were great, they wanted us to come on, we wanted to come on, we tried to get a date to make it work, and ultimately we just weren’t able to find a date,” Dillon said.

Staffers also discussed the campaign’s message, which was shaped by internal research suggesting a focus on attacking Trump. They defended the strategy of bringing Liz Cheney on the campaign trail in an effort to appeal to Republicans.

Another topic discussed was an ad released by the Trump campaign, which staffers called “effective.” The ad depicted Harris’ stance supporting taxpayer-funded sex-change surgeries for prisoners.

“It was a very effective ad in the end,” one staffer said. “I ultimately don’t believe it was about the issue of trans rights. I think it made her seem out of touch.”

Despite the campaign’s setbacks, Harris thanked her supporters during a call to donors. However, questions remain about the campaign’s spending, with some reports placing the total at up to $1.5 billion.

The full extent of the campaign’s finances will become clearer next month, following the post-election filing with the Federal Election Commission on Dec. 5.

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[Karah]

WE’RE HEARING FROM VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS’ TOP CAMPAIGN STAFF IN THEIR FIRST SIT DOWN INTERVIEW SINCE THE ELECTION WITH “POD SAVE AMERICA PODCAST”.

WE’RE LEARNING NEW DETAILS FROM THE INSIDE –

INCLUDING INTERNAL POLLING THAT WAS DAMNING FOR HARRIS.

WHY THE HARRIS-JOE ROGAN INTERVIEW NEVER HAPPENED.

AND WHAT THESE STAFFERS BELIEVE TO HAVE BEEN THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN.

BUT THE DIRECTION THE MEDIA IS GOING REPORTING THE STORY –

LARGELY DIFFERS DEPENDING ON WHETHER THE NEWS OUTLET HAS A LEFT OR RIGHT POLITICAL BIAS. 

CNN AND THE ASSOCIATED PRESS – BOTH LEFT-LEANING OUTLETS –

FOCUSED ON STAFFERS SAYING THERE WAS “A PRICE TO BE PAID FOR A SHORTENED CAMPAIGN” OR AN “ABBREVIATED CAMPAIGN” BEING THE CATALYST FOR KAMALA HARRIS.

RIGHT-LEANING NEWS OUTLETS LIKE THE WASHINGTON EXAMINER AND DAILY WIRE FOCUSED ON ANOTHER ANGLE IN THEIR HEADLINES COVERING THE PODCAST APPEARANCE  –

HIGHLIGHTING INTERNAL POLLING THAT NEVER SHOWED HARRIS AHEAD OF TRUMP.

CNN AND THE AP LEFT OUT ANY MENTION OF INTERNAL POLLING IN THEIR COVERAGE OF HARRIS CAMPAIGN STAFFERS SPEAKING OUT.

SIMILARLY, THE WASHINGTON EXAMINER AND DAILY WIRE DIDN’T MENTION STAFFERS

SAYING THE GREATEST DOWNFALL TO THE CAMPAIGN – WAS THE LACK OF TIME THEY HAD TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOLLOWING BIDEN’S LATE WITHDRAWAL FROM THE RACE.

HERE’S AN UNBIASED BREAKDOWN OF TAKEAWAYS FROM THE PODCAST.

FIRST – WHAT HARRIS SENIOR ADVISOR DAVID PLOUFFE HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE POLLS THEY WERE SEEING COMPARED TO THE NATIONAL POLLS THE PUBLIC WAS WATCHING.

“I think it surprised people because there was these public polls that came out in late september early october showing us with leads that we never saw. You know i mean it was just basically a race that in the battlegrounds was 46-47, 47-48 so that’s not where we started we started behind.”

PLOUFFE AND OTHER STAFFERS ALSO TOOK THE PODCAST AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AIR SHARED FRUSTRATION WITH THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME THEY WERE GIVEN TO MAKE AN IMPACT.

“In 107 days you know what typically takes us a year and a half two years in a presidential campaign we were defining someone who was wholly undefined from the start.”

“We’ve very well established the time frame. And its honestly a lot shorter than 107 days.”

“This is where there was a price to be paid for the short campaign and you can’t even say 107 days because some of that was spent shoring up democratic nomination, and you really need to have said everything you want to say before early voting so we had a little more than 2 months.” 

ANOTHER TOPIC TOUCHED ON BY THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN PANEL –

WHY HARRIS NEVER APPEARED ON THE JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE PODCAST –

AFTER IT WAS FLOATED IN HEADLINES THAT THE TWO TEAMS WERE IN TALKS TO HAVE A SIT DOWN INTERVIEW.

“We had discussions with rogan’s team, they were great, they wanted us to come on we wanted to come on, we tried to get a date to make it work and ultimately we just weren’t able to find a date.”

THE PODCAST EPISODE IS MORE THAN AN HOUR AND A HALF LONG.

THE STAFFERS GO ON TO SAY INTERNAL RESEARCH INDICATED THEY SHOULD FOCUS THEIR MESSAGE ON ATTACKING TRUMP.

AND THEY DEFENDED THE STRATEGY OF BRINGING LIZ CHENEY ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL IN AN EFFORT TO REACH ACROSS THE AISLE TO REPUBLICANS.

ANOTHER POINT OF DISCUSSION –

THIS AD RELEASED BY THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.

THE STAFFERS CALLING IT “EFFECTIVE.”

“Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners. Surgery for prisoners, every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access.“Kamala is for they them, trump is for you.”

It was a very effective ad at the end, i ultimately don’t believe that it was about the issue of trans, i think that it made her seem out of touch.”

“There’s also a fact pattern here, so if we could have just said that’s a lie, it’s not anything she ever believed, you know she was on tape surgery for trans, for people who wanted to transition in prison was part of the biden harris platform in 2020.

AT THE SAME TIME HARRIS’ STAFFERS WERE SPEAKING OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN’S STRATEGIES AND STRUGGLES –

HARRIS HERSELF SPOKE TO DONORS ON A CALL –

THANKING HER SUPPORTERS.

BUT THE CAMPAIGN HAS QUESTIONS REMAINING TO BE ANSWERED –

LARGELY OVER ITS SPENDING OF 1 BILLION DOLLARS –

SOME REPORTS HAVING THE NUMBER AS HIGH AS 1.5 BILLION.

THE EXTENT OF CAMPAIGN SPENDING AND DEBT REMAINS UNCLEAR –

BUT WILL COME MORE INTO FOCUS NEXT MONTH AFTER ITS POST-CAMPAIGN FEC FILING ON DECEMBER FIFTH.

FOR STRAIGHT ARROW NEWS I’M KARAH RUCKER.

WE’LL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW HEADLINES OVER THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN IN A POST-ELECTION WORLD –

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