Peter Zeihan Geopolitical Strategist
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France’s arrest of Pavel Durov could yield Russian intel

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Peter Zeihan Geopolitical Strategist
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Pavel Durov, the Russian billionaire founder of the encrypted messaging app Telegram, was arrested in France on Aug. 24. Telegram has been accused of facilitating international crimes by refusing to cooperate with national and international law enforcement efforts. The app is also widely used by Russian military units in their invasion of Ukraine.

Watch the above video as Straight Arrow News contributor Peter Zeihan explains who Durov is, why he was arrested, and what his arrest potentially signals for France, Russia and the war in Ukraine.


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The following is an excerpt from Peter’s Sept. 11 “Zeihan on Geopolitics” newsletter:

Today we’re looking at the importance of Telegram. No, we’re not talking about the thing a telegraph sends. We’re talking about the messaging platform created by Pavel Durov that’s causing quite the stir as of late.

Telegram has become the platform of choice for many of the world’s most unsavory characters — think the Russian military and ISIS. Telegram and its founder opted to not cooperate with Western governments and resisted any form of data sharing with authorities. This was the case, until founder Pavel Durov was recently arrested and promptly released in France.

Now, if I was someone who knew I was wanted in a number of countries, I would probably avoid visiting said countries. I would imagine Durov would do the same. So, I suspect that this was all part of some elaborate deal that Durov and the French authorities cut. If that’s the case, there could be some major implications.

Remember how I mentioned that Telegram was the choice platform for unsavory characters. Well, if Western governments can get their hands on these messages, logs and information, that would be a huge intelligence breakthrough that the Russians would love to avoid…

Hey everybody. Peter Zion, here, it’s tomorrow. I promised that we would talk about telegram and social media regulation in the European Space. Well, okay, first, what is telegram? Telegram is basically the Russian equivalent of something like Twitter or Facebook manager. The idea is that you can have a part of your account that is encrypted due to agree to send messages back and forth that no one else can follow. Now, when you have a system like this and you get extremist groups that start posting messages, whether that is a right wing group in the United States or, say, ISIS in the Middle East, governments often lean on institutions like Facebook, like WeChat and the rest to basically give it up. It’s like, you know, this is an issue of public safety. You need to cooperate and share your information with us so we can do normal law enforcement D things and prevent terror attacks. Now, all of the platforms in the world cooperate with us authorities on that topic, except telegram. Telegram does not participate in any assistance with any Western government whatsoever, and so you can imagine the quality of people who tend to use telegram. They’re not the sort of people you’re going to invite to a bar mitzvah. They do, of course, cooperate with Russians Russian governments in order to keep domestic political opposition in Russia under control. But it was a Russian founded institution. It’s no big surprise there. Now the guy who founded this thing, Pavel Durov, left Russia a few years ago because the Russian government was getting a little bit too hot and heavy. Too hot and heavy with leaning on him personally. So he’s operated a place primarily from Dubai, but he also said citizenship in France. Well, the French have been after dubof for quite some time, because, remember, the type of people who use telegram often are not very savory. So you get a lot of drug runners who use this to send money back and forth. You get a lot of child molesters who use it for child porn. So the French have had an open award for Pavel Durov for quite some time, and he showed up in France. He’s flew on his personal jet, surrendered to authorities, was arrested on the spot. Now, if you are wanted by someone for trafficking in kitty porn, you are usually aware that the government is after you, and if you’re someone as wealthy as Durov is billionaire, you’re not going to just accidentally land your plane somewhere where you think you’re going to get arrested. So he clearly knew what he was doing going in, and he was released in less than 24 hours on bail. Can’t leave the country, but that suggests to me that a deal was cut between the French and duroff, probably even before he left, and now they’re just working out the fine print to the degree of cooperation. Now, a few things to keep in mind about Telegram, from a technological point of view, it’s nothing special. Facebook and wechat have significantly better encryption than anything that they have. And so for example, while telegram has not cooperated with Western institutions, most notably the NSA here in the United States, had a field day cracking their encryption to go after ISIS, and that’s one of the reasons why, over the last several years, ISIS has done so badly. They thought their encryption was foolproof, and really, most of their mail is being read. And so if you’re a subserverative element anywhere in the United States, dumb ass, just keep in mind that the FBI is probably reading absolutely everything that you put out there. Now back to the telegram. So the question now is, what is the deal TBD, to be perfectly honest, and I’ve kind of put off doing this video, because I would really wanted to have an answer to that question, but I think the biggest thing to keep in mind is not so much drug runners or child molesters, but it’s the Russian military. Because while telegram is hardly a very good platform for security, its lack of difficulty in use has meant that it has become the preferred method of communication for the Russian military within itself. You see, Russian private encryption may not be nearly as well as Western private encryption, but it’s loads better and much more user friendly than Russian government military encryption. So the Russians have had a problem in the Ukraine war, that when they are doing some spotting for artillery, whoever’s doing the spotting basically has to go into this ancient, archaic system to send time and task targets and coordinates and everything. And by the time that information is encrypted, uploaded, downloaded, delivered, and then de encrypted, it’s irrelevant, and so they’ve just been using telegram to basically text directly to the artillery teams. Well, all that data is on Telegram, all of the data for their ship to shore communications, even some air power issues. Oh, my God, it’s so stupid. Anyway. So if Doroth is really deciding to cut a deal with the French intelligence ministries, well, this isn’t potentially just a breakthrough for enforcement. In terms of law enforcement, this is potentially an intelligence breakthrough for strategic issues, because the Russian military has been using it for almost everything. So we have been seeing Russian military bloggers. And a not so small number of Russian government personnel in the foreign and defense ministries basically losing their crap over the last couple of weeks as they’re trying to figure out what it is that Durov is going to give up publicly. Nothing has been said publicly. Telegram is saying this is a free speech issue. We have the right to Kiddie porn. You can imagine how the wallets going over in France anyway, we will know before long just how this is going to go, because, like I said, giraffe is already in France and France. France isn’t like the United States. When the French government and especially French Intel personnel, wants something, they have two ways to do things where they have very little pushback from the civilian authorities. Number one, little things like torture in France, if you’re foreign national, they’re a little bit less chatty about the details. Second, if you’ve ever been to the south of France, it’s beautiful, and there’s lots of villas there that could use an extra Russian billionaire. So whether it Durov is induced to cooperate, or has chosen to cooperate, there is a tough road, and there is an easy road in front of him, and the fact that he went to France willingly suggests that it’s going to be the easy road, and someone is going to be having a great time around nice in the not too distant future, and the Russian military is going to lose its primary method of communication. And it’s going to lose all of its archives to French intelligence, and the French are very good at using stuff like that. So.

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