Hey, everybody, Peter Zeihan here coming to you from frigid Colorado. We’re taking a entry from the ask Peter system today, in the aftermath of attacks by the Islamic State of chorus on on Iran, and more recently on Russia, they I was requested to do a geopolitics of ISIS video. So here we go.
Couple things to keep in mind. First of all, ISIS and ISIS Corizon are two very different groups. So I can do a geopolitics of ISIS. ISIS is core power is in the middle Fertile Crescent, between western Syria and central Iraq. So basically, you got the Euphrates valley that goes from the Persian Gulf, up through central Iraq, into western Iraq, northern Iraq, then comes back down to the cities of Hum hum on Aleppo, or Aleppo, excuse me.
That is the zone that technology and people and ideas and trade have percolated back and forth through a lot of human history, especially the earlier days. And in that zone, the thing to remember is that the Crescent is very, very, very thin. While you do have Mesopotamia in the East, where the Tigris comes into play in the zone between the rivers is a major agricultural zone. And while you do have more rainfall in extreme western Syria, when the Lebanon mountains merge with the highlands, they eventually become Anatolia. In the middle, you only have the Euphrates. And even in modern days with industrial level technology. In many cases, the Green Belt where you can grow food in the central Euphrates region is only a few miles from north to south.
And because of that, they’ve never been able to develop kind of the dense population centers, because there’s never enough food production. And the zones that you can do something with are very, very skinny and very, very long, which makes it very difficult to patrol it. So think about this this way, if if your city was a half a mile wide, but 20 miles long, and the proportions are much worse for a rock, if you wherever your police station is beginning all the way down, and all the way back would be difficult. You want something that’s spread out from a central point, like you know, say, a Chicago or Houston or Dallas or most of our cities,
it just makes a civilizational penetration much more difficult. And eventually you hit hard, does it we can’t do anything. So this is the zone that ISIS is from water is limited. There’s only one source aside from the oases and either you control it or you don’t. And so geopolitics, that region tend to be very visceral and very desperate. And this is part of the reason why ISIS is so violent, because it is a battle for survival among groups every single day. Now, it also means that groups like ISIS are not long for this world. If you look at the region, from a broader perspective, if you go further west, you hit the Levant, which has powers like Israel and the core of Syria to go north, you get into Anatolia and the Turkish territories that if you go east, you get into Mesopotamia, which is a bit of cradle of civilization for quite some time.
This zone in the middle can’t do anything. And the zone in the middle has never been powerful enough to penetrate into any of those other three zones. So the only time that zone in the middle matters at all is when all three of those major areas are offline at the same time. And if you go back to ISIS, his heyday 1015 years ago, that’s exactly where we were. Syria was in a civil war that the central government had almost lost. Iraq was reeling from the effects of the American occupation was not able to patrol its own territory, much less things on its fringes. And the Turks had not yet reemerged from their century long self imposed geopolitical sleep. It was a very different situation. And so ISIS was able to form recruit, expand dominate groups, and basically go on a series of small genocides was pretty nasty.
Now, that’s not our situation. The Syrian government has, for the most part stabilized even if the Civil War is not quite over, the Turks are back in the game and are crossing the border regularly. And Iraq is a power worthy of its name again. And so ISIS has basically fallen from cult controlling territory, to just a few outposts that move around that a general insurgency and some of the least valuable pod property in the Middle East. So that’s ISIS. ISIS core Assad is different ISIS chorus on thinks that ISIS is a bunch of wimps, because they don’t kill enough people specifically, Shia. ISIS is primarily Sunni ISIS course on as well. And they see Shia as the worst apostates of all. And so they are not interested in holding territory. They are interested in taking the battle wherever it may go, and wherever there’s a secular government. And so that has taken them against the Taliban, which they think are a bunch of voices. Let’s take it up against the Iranians who are Shia, and that’s taken them against the Russians who they see as oppressing their fellow Sunni followers. Because of this, you can’t do a geopolitics of ISIS Corp.
Hassan, because they’re not interested in territory, they don’t have a home territory, they’re actually fairly egalitarian as to who they take into their ranks as long as you’re not a Shia. And in the case of the Russian space, there are a lot of subjugated Muslim populations with probably the Uzbeks being the most important that are willing to join violent groups. And so one of the things that it appears to be with ISIS course odd as they’ve been recruiting pretty aggressively from within the former Soviet sphere, Uzbeks, Tajiks, some Kyrgyz maybe some it’s a some Turkman. And hopefully not, but most likely, so Dagestan is Chechens. Bashkirs, and touch ours. Those are all people who live within the Russian Federation today. So the danger here for the Russians is very, very real from a security point of view and an ideological point of view. But you can’t do a geopolitics of ISIS B or ISIS curse on because they don’t have a core territory. They’re a splinter group that’s based entirely on ideology. So ISIS is not the sort of group that can expand much beyond its current footprint, and certainly not beyond that part of the middle Euphrates where from time to time, they can kind of expand as core Assad is a different sort of category. They are not constrained and could very well be coming to a place near you said that was way more inflammatory than he does out. While there have been certainly plots interrupted by ISIS gets ‘merican interest. There’s no sign that they’re up in the United States for now. Yet.
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Four gunmen opened fire on a crowd of civilians at a concert venue in Moscow, Russia on Mar. 22, claiming at least 144 lives. U.S. intelligence believes the radical Islamist group ISIS-K, an ISIS offshoot, was behind the attack.
Straight Arrow News contributor Peter Zeihan retraces the history of both ISIS and ISIS-K, explaining that ISIS-K views ISIS as “too soft” and believes even more strongly in the use of violence against civilians to achieve political goals.
Below is an excerpt from Peter’s April 8 “Zeihan on Geopolitics” newsletter:
With the recent attack on Moscow, I received some requests to do a breakdown on the geopolitics of ISIS. First things first, there are two largely unaffiliated groups at play here – ISIS-Khorasan and the more widely known, ISIS.
The original ISIS (aka the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) primarily operates in the middle Fertile Crescent region. In recent years ISIS has not done well, losing control over all the territory it once controlled, being reduced to little more than a strategic nuisance.
ISIS-Khorasan has no specific region in which it operates, but rather targets Shia populations and engages in violent activities against secular governments it perceives as oppressing Muslims, such as Russia.
Hey, everybody, Peter Zeihan here coming to you from frigid Colorado. We’re taking a entry from the ask Peter system today, in the aftermath of attacks by the Islamic State of chorus on on Iran, and more recently on Russia, they I was requested to do a geopolitics of ISIS video. So here we go.
Couple things to keep in mind. First of all, ISIS and ISIS Corizon are two very different groups. So I can do a geopolitics of ISIS. ISIS is core power is in the middle Fertile Crescent, between western Syria and central Iraq. So basically, you got the Euphrates valley that goes from the Persian Gulf, up through central Iraq, into western Iraq, northern Iraq, then comes back down to the cities of Hum hum on Aleppo, or Aleppo, excuse me.
That is the zone that technology and people and ideas and trade have percolated back and forth through a lot of human history, especially the earlier days. And in that zone, the thing to remember is that the Crescent is very, very, very thin. While you do have Mesopotamia in the East, where the Tigris comes into play in the zone between the rivers is a major agricultural zone. And while you do have more rainfall in extreme western Syria, when the Lebanon mountains merge with the highlands, they eventually become Anatolia. In the middle, you only have the Euphrates. And even in modern days with industrial level technology. In many cases, the Green Belt where you can grow food in the central Euphrates region is only a few miles from north to south.
And because of that, they’ve never been able to develop kind of the dense population centers, because there’s never enough food production. And the zones that you can do something with are very, very skinny and very, very long, which makes it very difficult to patrol it. So think about this this way, if if your city was a half a mile wide, but 20 miles long, and the proportions are much worse for a rock, if you wherever your police station is beginning all the way down, and all the way back would be difficult. You want something that’s spread out from a central point, like you know, say, a Chicago or Houston or Dallas or most of our cities,
it just makes a civilizational penetration much more difficult. And eventually you hit hard, does it we can’t do anything. So this is the zone that ISIS is from water is limited. There’s only one source aside from the oases and either you control it or you don’t. And so geopolitics, that region tend to be very visceral and very desperate. And this is part of the reason why ISIS is so violent, because it is a battle for survival among groups every single day. Now, it also means that groups like ISIS are not long for this world. If you look at the region, from a broader perspective, if you go further west, you hit the Levant, which has powers like Israel and the core of Syria to go north, you get into Anatolia and the Turkish territories that if you go east, you get into Mesopotamia, which is a bit of cradle of civilization for quite some time.
This zone in the middle can’t do anything. And the zone in the middle has never been powerful enough to penetrate into any of those other three zones. So the only time that zone in the middle matters at all is when all three of those major areas are offline at the same time. And if you go back to ISIS, his heyday 1015 years ago, that’s exactly where we were. Syria was in a civil war that the central government had almost lost. Iraq was reeling from the effects of the American occupation was not able to patrol its own territory, much less things on its fringes. And the Turks had not yet reemerged from their century long self imposed geopolitical sleep. It was a very different situation. And so ISIS was able to form recruit, expand dominate groups, and basically go on a series of small genocides was pretty nasty.
Now, that’s not our situation. The Syrian government has, for the most part stabilized even if the Civil War is not quite over, the Turks are back in the game and are crossing the border regularly. And Iraq is a power worthy of its name again. And so ISIS has basically fallen from cult controlling territory, to just a few outposts that move around that a general insurgency and some of the least valuable pod property in the Middle East. So that’s ISIS. ISIS core Assad is different ISIS chorus on thinks that ISIS is a bunch of wimps, because they don’t kill enough people specifically, Shia. ISIS is primarily Sunni ISIS course on as well. And they see Shia as the worst apostates of all. And so they are not interested in holding territory. They are interested in taking the battle wherever it may go, and wherever there’s a secular government. And so that has taken them against the Taliban, which they think are a bunch of voices. Let’s take it up against the Iranians who are Shia, and that’s taken them against the Russians who they see as oppressing their fellow Sunni followers. Because of this, you can’t do a geopolitics of ISIS Corp.
Hassan, because they’re not interested in territory, they don’t have a home territory, they’re actually fairly egalitarian as to who they take into their ranks as long as you’re not a Shia. And in the case of the Russian space, there are a lot of subjugated Muslim populations with probably the Uzbeks being the most important that are willing to join violent groups. And so one of the things that it appears to be with ISIS course odd as they’ve been recruiting pretty aggressively from within the former Soviet sphere, Uzbeks, Tajiks, some Kyrgyz maybe some it’s a some Turkman. And hopefully not, but most likely, so Dagestan is Chechens. Bashkirs, and touch ours. Those are all people who live within the Russian Federation today. So the danger here for the Russians is very, very real from a security point of view and an ideological point of view. But you can’t do a geopolitics of ISIS B or ISIS curse on because they don’t have a core territory. They’re a splinter group that’s based entirely on ideology. So ISIS is not the sort of group that can expand much beyond its current footprint, and certainly not beyond that part of the middle Euphrates where from time to time, they can kind of expand as core Assad is a different sort of category. They are not constrained and could very well be coming to a place near you said that was way more inflammatory than he does out. While there have been certainly plots interrupted by ISIS gets ‘merican interest. There’s no sign that they’re up in the United States for now. Yet.
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