RoryDouglasOfficial:
“Oh snap! It’s tax season, people are freaking out right now.”
Sashasdailylife:
“I literally dread tax season.”
Simone Del Rosario:
What’s that saying about death and taxes?
Papaiza:
“I swear to god. As soon as March and April rolls around, I feel like I have this constant looming threat in my life.“
Simone Del Rosario:
The IRS expects 146 million individual tax filings this season.
You’d think, with so many people affected, the process might be a bit more streamlined.
PillaTalksTaxes:
“Complexity is out of control. It’s the single biggest problem taxpayers have.”
Donald Trump:
“I understand the tax code better than anybody that’s ever run for President… And It’s extremely complex.”
Papaiza:
“The government knows how much I owe. So why they hell do I have to do this?”
Simone Del Rosario:
There are 14 billion reasons why the tax prep industry has a vested interest in making sure the majority of Americans need a tax pro this time of year.
Anna Massoglia:
“There is an incentive to keep the tax code complicated to keep this industry in operation.”
Simone Del Rosario:
And the industry’s spent millions lobbying against a new government program where you could file your taxes for free directly through the IRS.
Andy Phillips:
“There are a variety of things that the IRS needs to do to enhance taxpayer service and tax administration. This does not seem like the best investment.”
Simone Del Rosario:
More on that, plus, there’s gotta be an easier way…
Erle Kõomets:
“United States tax system is a maze.”
Simone Del Rosario:
…we look to the banks of the Baltic Sea for a simpler tax solution.
Avril Lavigne:
“Tell me… Why’d you have to go and make things so complicated.”
Simone Del Rosario:
I’m pretty sure Avril was singing about the U.S. tax code.
Andy Phillips:
“Our US tax code is quite complex and unique, in that, we of course use it to collect taxes and fund the federal government, a variety of services. But we also use it to administer a variety of social subsidies.”
Simone Del Rosario:
Ok, so the U.S. employs a ton of provisions intended to help American taxpayers, like the Child Tax Credit, Mortgage Interest Deduction, and Earned Income Tax Credit.
Andy Phillips:
“And so that does create complexity, it also creates opportunities for taxpayers to use their tax return to their financial betterment.”
saptravels:
“Can someone explain to me some tax loopholes so I don’t have to give uncle sam all that money back.”
Donald Trump:
“Did you use that $916 million loss to avoid paying federal income tax?”
“Of course I do. Of course I do.”
Simone Del Rosario:
The Internal Revenue Code contains nearly 10,000 (9,834) sections and a six-volume set of corresponding regulations. That’s according to the National Taxpayer Advocate’s annual report to Congress. They say the average taxpayer spends 13 hours and $240 bucks to file one annual tax return.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren:
“13 hours, $240.”
Simone Del Rosario:
Meanwhile, IRS customer service reps spent 3.7 million hours answering phones during the 2022 tax season.
This year, the U.S. government is rolling out a pilot program that offers some Americans the opportunity to file directly with the IRS, for free.
The pilot program is limited to just 12 states. They created the “direct file” system with funding from the Inflation Reduction Act and it only covers simple, individual federal tax returns.
The 12 states in the program either have no state income tax or have some sort of electronic filing system of their own.
Anna Massoglia:
“So there’s only a small number of taxpayers that are actually able to use the in-house government services at this point.”
Simone Del Rosario:
But government-run websites have a complicated past.
In 2013, when healthcare dot gov launched, millions of Americans typed in that url to put some insurance in their shopping cart. But instead, they got bugs, crashes and other messages preventing them from checking out. The White House said they never expected that much traffic the first day.
With the baby steps the IRS is taking, it appears the government learned at least one lesson from that.
But the IRS pilot program faces far more opposition than folks who think government should stay out of web development.
Anna Massoglia:
“When it runs out on a much wider scale, it could potentially pose a threat to Intuit’s businesses every year.”
Simone Del Rosario:
TurboTax parent company Intuit says the program is, “a solution in search of a problem.”
H&R Block Tax Institute Director Andy Phillips says there are literally dozens of outlets already providing free services.
Andy Phillips:
Just here at H&R Block, we have a free product that offers support for more than 40 forms. That’s more than what’s offered in the direct file program. That’s more than what’s offered by some of our biggest competitors, including TurboTax. And so while yes, that program is free, at H&R Block, we also have a free DIY product and we’re pretty confident that we’re doing free better.
Simone Del Rosario:
Tens of millions of Americans turn to tax prep services like H&R Block and TurboTax every single year. The two companies bring in billions in revenue each tax season. And they account for roughly 42% of electronically-prepared individual tax returns.
Overall, the U.S. tax prep services industry is about a $14 billion market.
TurboTax ad:
“We guarantee 100% accurate taxes.”
“She’s good”
H&R Block Ad:
“I switched to H&R block. Doing my own taxes online.”
“Hmm”
“I was able to file for free and it was so easy to do on my own.”
Simone Del Rosario:
In 2003, the IRS launched the Free File program, a public-private partnership between the IRS and tax prep companies to give lower-income taxpayers access to tax prep software.
Since the launch, the tax prep industry has spent $93 million on federal lobbying efforts, according to analysis from OpenSecrets.
Intuit set a company lobbying record in 2023, spending $3.8 million that year, while H&R Block put up another $3 million lobbying.
Anna Massoglia:
“Much of that is targeted on fighting the IRS development of a competitor to the tax prep industry that would allow people to file for free.”
Simone Del Rosario:
The Direct File pilot program, which cuts out the private sector, is just one reason for the rift between tax prep giants and the government.
TurboTax Ad:
“And free free free and free.”
Simone Del Rosario:
It all started with a 2019 ProPublica investigation that accused TurboTax of using lobbying and “dark pattern” customer tricks to fend off the government’s attempts to make tax filing free and easy.
ProPublica reports Intuit made their version of the government’s free file program harder to find while promoting their own “Free Edition,”
TurboTax Ad:
free free free free
Simone Del Rosario:
which came with traps that could push customers into paying.
TurboTax Ad:
“That’s right, TurboTax Free Edition is free. Free free free free.”
Anna Massoglia:
“In many cases, taxpayers may not know what they’re getting into from the start, they may invest time and energy into preparing their tax filing only at the very end to say, ‘Okay, actually, this is going to cost money.’”
News Report:
“Tonight more than 4 million people who used TurboTax to file their income taxes are getting a refund.”
Simone Del Rosario:
All 50 states sued, forcing a $141 million settlement, and the Federal Trade Commission ruled Intuit is guilty of deceptive advertising.
News Report:
“The popular tax-filing software TurboTax has been banned from advertising its services as free.”
Simone Del Rosario:
This year, the FTC also filed a similar complaint against TurboTax competitor H&R Block.
H&R Block Ad:
“I was able to file for free…”
Simone Del Rosario:
The FTC says H&R Block also deceptively advertises free products, and unfairly deletes customer data when users try to downgrade to cheaper options.
H&R Block is denying the claims and suing the FTC in return. H&R Block’s lawsuit claims the FTC’s use of internal judges to decide these cases violates the Constitution.
The Supreme Court is already considering a similar argument against the Securities and Exchange Commission.
But back to taxes.
When I spoke with H&R Block, I asked them how many of their customers file for free. They told me that’s not a number they can publicly share.
Meanwhile, TurboTax claims they have over 11 million customers who file 100% free each year.
But this is advertising TurboTax’s free edition, not the government’s existing Free File.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren:
“Secretary Yellen, what percentage of taxpayers actually use Free File right now? I believe that last year about 4%.”
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen:
“And you know that is not an accident. These companies deliberately sabotaged the Free File program and steered people to products that they could charge for.”
After nearly two decades, Intuit stopped offering the government’s Free File program in 2021, saying the program was too limiting, focusing instead on their Free Edition.
Anna Massoglia:
“We’re seeing the tax prep industry investing into making their services more enhanced. Having integrations with other types of services. I know Intuit recently launched an integration with Credit Karma. And so we’re seeing them make their services more appealing to taxpayers, trying to make them easier and have more available, in addition to also spending to fight against that government program.”
Simone Del Rosario:
Intuit says the government’s newest attempt at free tax prep is, “a thinly veiled scheme where billions of dollars of taxpayer money will be unnecessarily used to pay for something already completely free of charge today.”
Let’s get real: There’s a reason the TurboTaxes of the world even exist.
Anna Massoglia:
“The commercial tax prep tax prep industry has really developed because people struggle to file their taxes, because there really isn’t an easier way.”
Laughter Awaits:
“Hey it’s time to pay your taxes. Oh, ok, how much do I owe you? What’s the total amount? Oh, we’re not going to tell you that.”
Alex Muresianu:
“So many different types of income are taxed differently. So some types of saving are taxed never, some types of saving are taxed once, some types of savings are taxed twice. dividends, interest short term capital gains, long term capital gains.
Alex Muresianu:
“Thinking big here, how do we simplify the tax code? It would be something that looks more like Estonia.”
Simone Del Rosario:
Welcome to Estonia, land of the best tax code in the world, according to the Tax Foundation.
Erle Kõomets:
“97% of people filed taxes electronically. And 92% found the process really easy.”
Simone Del Rosario:
Erle Koomets is the Head of the Tax and Customs Policy Department of the Estonian Ministry of Finance.
Erle Kõomets:
“The system calculates everything for you. So you don’t need to do anything yourself, except input a few numbers that the government may not have.”
Simone Del Rosario:
Estonia has a flat 20% tax on individual income. Every Estonian taxpayer has an account with the Ministry of Finance. Come tax season, you log in and your tax information is pre-filled.
Erle Kõomets:
“You already see what is the salary that you have earned during the year and how much your employer has withheld. And the system automatically already applies allowances if you’re entitled to them.”
Simone Del Rosario:
Even more complicated tax situations are pretty easy to amend. Estonia says most taxpayers are done filing in 3 minutes.
Erle Kõomets:
Nobody in Estonia would even dream about wanting to pay money to file your taxes.
The fact Estonia has a population the size of the state of Maine (1.3 million) doesn’t mean the system wouldn’t work at a larger scale.
Alex Muresianu:
“I don’t think there are as many scaling issues with a tax system in the way that there might be with other policies.”
Erle Kõomets:
I think you need efficient systems. And of course, for a big country, the initial cost of introducing such a system would be horrendous. But again, big countries would also have more funds to use toward that purpose.
Simone Del Rosario:
But Estonia’s flat tax could be considered regressive. It was introduced 30 years ago after the country declared independence from the Soviet Union. At the time, there wasn’t as much wealth disparity. Koomets says she would not be surprised if the country moves toward more progressive taxation years from now.
Erle Kõomets:
“But you can still maintain the easy filing system.”
Simone Del Rosario:
But like the U.S., changes to the tax code can be a heavy lift in Estonia.
Erle Kõomets:
2023 was the first year when we had to increase taxes, mostly because of the additional defense expenditure that we had to fund. And even people recognize that this is for a good cause. And we really need to boost our defense, it was still incredibly hard to make happen.
Simone Del Rosario:
The Tax Policy Center says the last time the U.S. made comprehensive changes to the tax code was in 1986. Signed by President Ronald Reagan, the Tax Reform Act dropped the top income tax rate from 50 to 28% and raised the lowest rate from 11 to 15%.
In 2017, Republicans promised a simple tax return that could fit on a postcard, but the idea got about as much traction as it did when Steve Forbes published “Flat Tax Revolution: Using a Postcard to Abolish the IRS” back in 2005.
Don’t forget pizza executive Herman Cain’s run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.
Reporter:
“Do you think the Libya comments reinforce the idea that you don’t have a thorough understanding of foreign policy?
Herman Cain:
“Nine, Nine, Nine.”
Simone Del Rosario:
Cain’s proposal would replace the current tax system with a 9% personal income tax, 9% federal sales tax, and 9% corporate tax.
There’s a reason these proposals go nowhere in the U.S. As the late Louisiana Sen. Russell Long famously said, “Don’t tax you, don’t tax me, tax that man behind the tree.”
Alex Muresianu:
Which is to say that we promise to not touch your provisions, the provisions that you benefit from, the other special benefits that other people benefit from, we’ll get rid of those.
Simone Del Rosario:
As another tax season winds down, the IRS says nearly 1 in 3 people wait until the final few weeks to file their returns.
So with that in mind, here are some inspirational words from the man behind 9-9-9, which could also relate to filing your tax return.
Herman Cain:
“I believe these words came from the Pokemon Movie.”
“Life can be a challenge, life can seem impossible, it’s never easy when there’s so much on the line. But you and I can make a difference.