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A recession could be marked by loss of profits, not unemployment

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Larry Lindsey President & CEO, The Lindsey Group
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In the face of a robust labor market and rising consumer prices, the Federal Reserve is prepared to raise interest rates until it feels it has sufficiently beaten back inflation. Fed Chair Jerome Powell recently testified, “the ultimate level of interest rates is likely to be higher than previously anticipated,” and many economists now believe the Fed will not stop raising rates until the nation enters a recession.

Straight Arrow News contributor Larry Lindsey sees a recession as inevitable. However, he believes this one will look different from others, led not by massive unemployment, but by big hits to corporate profits and share prices.

Economists are often wrong, but there’s still a lot to be learned from economics. Right now, what economists and people in the stock market are talking about is the possibility of a recession. The business surveys that are coming in all suggest that perhaps the economy is already in a recession, but the employment situation is very tight. So we have to think about what kind of recession we’re actually going to have. 

Joseph Schumpeter, a 20th-century economist, said that recessions are part of the process of “creative destruction.” The idea is that places where too much capital has been put will have to shrink in a recession, and that allows new industries to use that capital to grow. So “creative destruction” is an important thing to think about. 

We might think back, for example, to the problems in the housing industry in the mid-2000s. Money poured into housing. In fact, it got to be costing too much — it became speculative. What the recession of 2008-2009 did was to take capital out of the housing market and redeploy it in other industries, including technology. 

Well, today, it is the tech sector that probably has too much capital in it. Consider just six stocks, which are often called “FAANG+M“. They are Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google, and Microsoft – “FAANG M”. Now they dropped from 23% of the value of the stock market, back at the beginning of 2022, to just 18% now. That’s a pretty significant plunge. 

Economists are often wrong, but there’s still a lot to be learned from economics. Right now, when economists and people in stock market are talking about is the possibility of a recession. 

 

The business surveys that are coming in all suggest that perhaps the economy is already in a recession. But the employment situation is very tight. So we have to think about what kind of recession we’re actually going to have. 

 

Joseph Schumpeter, a 20th century economist, said that recessions are part of the process of creative destruction. The idea is that places where too much capital has been put, will have to shrink in a recession. And that allows new industries to use that capital to grow. So creative destruction is an important thing to think about. 

 

We might think back, for example, to the problems in the housing industry in the mid 2000s. Money poured into housing, in fact got to be costing too much, became speculative. What the recession of 2008-2009 did was to take capital out of the housing market, and redeploy it in other industries, including technology. 

 

Well, today, it is the tech sector that probably has too much capital in it. Consider just six stocks, which are often called “FANG+M”. They are Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google, and Microsoft – Fang M. Now they dropped from 23% of the value of the stock market, back at the beginning of 2022, to just 18% now. That’s a pretty significant plunge. 

 

Another way of looking at it is the value of just those six stocks was $10 trillion at the beginning of 2022 versus $7 trillion now. That’s a decline of 30%. If you look at all the other stocks in the S&P, what happened was they dropped from just $33 trillion to $32 trillion, a decline of just 3%. In other words, three quarters of all the decline in the stock market that we’ve seen during 2022 was due to just six stocks. 

 

You’ll also note that if you listen to where layoffs are occurring, the big announcements are in the tech industry, who have been laying off several thousand workers, some say that number could be as high as 80,000 workers. Well, why was there too much capital in the tech sector? The size of the sector, the stock market value, grew 10 times in the space of just 10 years, 10 times. Now, a lot of it had to do with public attraction to some hot ideas. We went from 6% to 23% of the stock market over that time, as new technologies excited the public. 

 

One other aspect of the tech sector is that it’s dominated by quasi-monopolies. They aren’t complete monopolies. These are firms that are large enough to have bargaining power. For example, there really is no substitute for Facebook. Apple, I suppose, is competing with Android systems. Google is the go-to place for search engines, for example. And each of these quasi-monopolies has a lot of power with regard to setting prices. 

 

Now, that’s starting to fade as well. Consider the idea that these are hot new ideas. Things are a little bit tighter now. And people may ask themselves, do I really need a new cell phone this year? Or can mine wait? And with regard to being too big, just Apple and Microsoft have 46% of the information technology business. Alphabet, Meta and Netflix have 41% of the communication services business. 

 

So the other thing that happens over time is these quasi-monopolies face new competition. Right now they seem to be going after each other’s markets, for example. And when competition comes in, prices tend to be constrained and even come down. 

 

If you think back to the robber barons, for example, oil industry, the steel industry, for example, those industries eventually were faced with more competition. And so the value of those monopolies declined. 

 

What are we going to see in this recession, then? First, I think we’re going to see a big decline in corporate profits. And with that, a big decline in share prices. On the other hand, we’re probably not going to see much of a decline in employment, which is what most people think defines a recession. So this is going to be a different kind of recession. And we should think about it in those terms. 

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