ISAAC POOLE:
“IT IS LIKELY TO FOLLOW A GOOD OLE FASHION CREDIT CRUNCH PATHWAY.” 1:51}
RANDY WATTS:
“THIS IS GONNA BE EXACERBATED BY WHAT IS CLEARLY BECOMING A CREDIT CRUNCH IN THE BANKING SECTOR.”
JIM CARON:
“IS IT A CREDIT CRUNCH LIKE IN 2008 OR IS IT A CREDIT TIGHTENING.”
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO:
CREDIT CRUNCH COULD BE THE PHRASE THAT PAYS – IF YOU’RE BETTING ON A U-S RECESSION.
WITH RISING INTEREST RATES AND NOW BANKING UPHEAVAL ON TOP OF IT, IS THE U-S ON THE VERGE OF THE NEXT CREDIT CRUNCH?
MARK ZANDI:
A CREDIT CRUNCH IS THE INABILITY OF HOUSEHOLDS AND BUSINESSES TO GET THE CREDIT THAT THEY NEED.”
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO:
I’M NOT SURE I COULD SAY IT BETTER. A CREDIT CRUNCH REFERS TO A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN BANK LENDING ACTIVITY DRIVEN BY A SHORTAGE OF FUNDS.
MARK ZANDI:
“THE POSSIBILITY OF THE RESTRICTION OF CREDIT TO BE SO SIGNIFICANT THAT UNDER ALMOST ANY TERMS YOU CAN’T GET A LOAN THAT’S CERTAINLY A RISK OF SOMETHING THAT MAY HAPPEN. IF THAT DOES, THAT’S A CREDIT CRUNCH. WE’RE NOT THERE YET, BUT THAT’S CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY GOING FORWARD.”
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO:
A PRIME EXAMPLE IS WHAT HAPPENED IN THE WAKE OF THE 2008 FINANCIAL CRASH.
FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS WERE ON THE HOOK FOR TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN WORTHLESS SUBPRIME MORTGAGES.
BANKS THAT SURVIVED IT DIDN’T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE OUT THERE MAKING A LOT OF LOANS. EVEN HIGHLY-QUALIFIED FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES STRUGGLED TO GET CREDIT.
ACCESS TO CAPITAL IS WHAT FUELS GROWTH IN THE ECONOMY. SO THE CREDIT CRUNCH DRAGGED ON GROWTH FOR YEARS TO COME.
MARK ZANDI:
“THE ‘08, ‘09 FINANCIAL CRISIS IS IN A LEAGUE OF ITS OWN. WHAT WE’RE EXPERIENCING NOW, IT DOESN’T FEEL VERY GOOD, IT’S VERY UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT IT’S NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT WE SUFFERED BACK IN THAT CRISIS.”
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO:
LOAN ACTIVITY HAS ALREADY BEEN ON THE DECLINE BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE’S FIGHT AGAINST INFLATION.
WHEN INTEREST RATES ARE HIGHER, PEOPLE ARE LESS LIKELY TO TAKE OUT LOANS AND SPEND MONEY.
JEROME POWELL:
SO THE KEY IS WE HAVE TO HAVE POLICIES, GOTTA BE TIGHT ENOUGH TO BRING INFLATION DOWN TO 2% OVER TIME. IT DOESN’T ALL HAVE TO COME FROM RATE HIKES. IT CAN COME FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM TIGHTER CREDIT CONDITIONS. 30:04}
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO:
A POTENTIAL CREDIT CRUNCH CAN BE AN UNPREDICTABLE ALLY IN THE FED’S INFLATION FIGHT.
ON THE HEELS OF TWO OF THE BIGGEST U-S BANK FAILURES IN HISTORY…MANY EXPECT BANKS TO FURTHER LIMIT LOAN ACTIVITY.
BUT EVEN BEFORE THIS DISORDER, IT WAS ALREADY HAPPENING.
IN A FED SURVEY ABOUT 44% OF BANKS REPORTED TIGHTENING STANDARDS FOR BUSINESS LOANS THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2023.
MARK ZANDI:
“THERE’S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY HERE. HOW SIGNIFICANT IS THIS CREDIT CRUNCH GOING TO BE? HOW BIG AN IMPACT IS THAT GOING TO HAVE.”
“I’M MUCH LESS CONFIDENT IN MY OPTIMISM ABOUT AVOIDING RECESSION THAN I WAS TWO WEEKS AGO BECAUSE OF THE BANKING CRISIS.”
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO:
ACHIEVING DISINFLATION WITHOUT A RECESSION WAS ALREADY A TOUGH TEST TO PASS WITH THE FED’S BLUNT TOOLS.
BUT AT LEAST THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER THOSE TOOLS. A CREDIT CRUNCH COULD BRING IN A WHOLE NEW SET OF UNKNOWNS.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: MERE HOURS BEFORE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CLOSED DOWN SILICON VALLEY BANK, THE BANK DISHED OUT EMPLOYEE BONUSES.
TO BE CLEAR, THE ANNUAL PAYOUT WAS PLANNED BEFORE THE BANK’S COLLAPSE. BUT THAT IS TIMING AT ITS WORST.
TACK ON C-E-O GREG BECKER CASHING OUT $3.6 MILLION IN BANK SHARES LESS THAN TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE FAILURE – AND YOU’VE CAUGHT THE IRE OF WASHINGTON POLITICIANS.
KYRSTEN SINEMA: IT’S OUTRAGEOUS THAT THESE PEOPLE TOOK BONUSES AND SOLD STOCK IN THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THE BANK’S FAILURE. WE SHOULD HOLD THESE EXECUTIVES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW AND CLAW BACK THOSE BONUSES AND STOCK SALES.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: FEDERAL REGULATORS IMMEDIATELY FIRED THE BANK’S LEADERS.
BUT SVB EXECUTIVES AND DIRECTORS STILL HAVE A CUSHION TO FALL BACK ON. SMART INSIDER SAYS THEY’VE CASHED OUT $84 MILLION WORTH OF STOCK THE PAST TWO – VERY PROFITABLE – YEARS.
NOT TO MENTION, MILLIONS PAID OUT IN EXECUTIVE SALARIES.
AND NOW THERE A BIPARTISAN PUSH TO CLAW SOME OF THAT BACK…THE NEXT TIME A BANK FAILS, THAT IS.
CO-SPONSOR SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN SAYS IT’LL GIVE BANK LEADERSHIP THE INCENTIVE TO BE MORE CAUTIOUS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THAT CLAW COULD REACH BACK FIVE YEARS BEFORE A FAILURE.
ELIZABETH WARREN: HEY IF YOU LOAD THIS BANK UP ON RISK AND THE BANK EXPLODES, YOU’RE GOING TO LOSE THAT FANCY BONUS, YOU’RE GOING TO LOSE THAT BIG SALARY, YOU’RE GOING TO LOSE THOSE STOCK OPTIONS.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: THE FDIC SAYS SVB’S COLLAPSE PUT A 20 BILLION DOLLAR HOLE IN GOVERNMENT’S DEPOSIT INSURANCE FUND. AND THAT’LL HAVE TO BE REPLENISHED WITH A SPECIAL FEE ON BANKS.
FEDERAL REGULATORS TOLD CONGRESS THEY DO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL AUTHORITY TO HOLD BANK EXECS ACCOUNTABLE…
MICHAEL BARR: POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES INCLUDE A PROHIBITION FROM BANKING CIVIL MONEY PENALTIES OR THE PAYMENT OF RESTITUTION, WE INTEND TO USE THESE AUTHORITIES TO THE FULLEST EXTENT WE ARE ABLE.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: BUT MULTIPLE BILLS PROPOSED IN THE WAKE OF THE BANK COLLAPSE ARE LOOKING TO EXTEND THAT REACH.
MARTIN GRUENBERG: IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY SPECIFIC AUTHORITY UNDER THE FDI ACT, FOR CLAWBACKS PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SOME VALUE.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: THE BIPARTISAN NATURE OF SOME OF THESE BILLS MAKE IT APPEAR AS THOUGH IT’LL BE A SHOO IN. BUT CONGRESS HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE.
IN 2009, THE HOUSE OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED A BILL – 328 TO 93 – THAT WOULD TAX THE BONUSES OF HIGH-EARNING EMPLOYEES AT COMPANIES BAILED OUT BY THE GOVERNMENT. BUT IT NEVER WENT ANYWHERE IN THE SENATE.
KARAH RUCKER: THE NATIONAL PARK BUSINESS IS BOOMING BACK TO PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS. ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, IN 2022, 312 MILLION PEOPLE VISITED ONE OF 63 CONGRESSIONALLY DESIGNATED NATIONAL PARKS ACROSS THE U.S. THAT’S 15 MILLION MORE THAN IN 2021. BUT WITH MORE VISITORS COMES MORE ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES.
JASON MARTIN | EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AMERICAN ALPINE INSTITUTE: 09:47 “Anybody can get hurt if they’re in the mountains, no matter whether they’re an expert or beginner. The mountains are always moving, rocks fall, snow slides, people trip, people make mistakes. All these things are possible.”
JASON MARTIN HAS BEEN CLIMBING MOUNTAINS FOR 31 YEARS.
MARTIN: 02:59 “I think that there are more mountain climbers coming to the national parks, that’s for sure. But most of the visitors that go to national parks are honestly most people are day tourists in the national parks. There’s a set percentage that does more adventuring further away from the road. And then of that percentage, there’s a smaller percentage that will do some type of climbing type thing.”
ACCORDING TO PSBR LAW, WHO ANALYZED DATA IT RECEIVED VIA A FOIA REQUEST OF NPS …THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 2,727 DEATHS AT A U.S. NATIONAL PARK SITE BETWEEN 2007 AND 2018 — OR 8 DEATHS PER 10 MILLION VISITS. 81% OF THOSE DEATHS WERE MALE.
THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF DEATH WAS DROWNING. FOLLOWED BY MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES. FALLS AND SLIPS ARE FOURTH.
MARTIN: 23:37 “These types of things happen in the mountains, regardless of who
you are, it doesn’t matter how strong you are, how fit you are, how good you think you are with your backpack, whatever with your climbing gear, how strong a climber you are, anybody can make a mistake. And anybody can get hurt or worse.”
IN PART TWO OF OUR SERIES WE WILL VISIT THE PARK WITH THE HIGHEST DEATH RATE IN THE U.S. IT’S NOT YOSEMITE OR THE GRAND CANYON. IT’S NORTH CASCADES NATIONAL PARK IN WASHINGTON.
WHY IT HAS A MORTALITY RATE THREE TIMES HIGHER THAN THE SECOND HIGHEST SITE.
ERIC FOSTER: If I thought that was a risk, I would have immediately mitigated the risk. That was not even a smidge of a thought in my head.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: SILICON VALLEY BANK MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE WEST.
BUT IT’S NOT THE WILD WEST – WHERE BANK BANDITS COULD MAKE OFF WITH YOUR HARD-EARNED CASH.
I’D ARGUE NOW, WHEN PEOPLE DEPOSIT MONEY IN THE BANK, IT’S BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT’S THE SAFEST PLACE IT COULD BE.
IT’S NOT IN AN INVESTMENT THAT COULD LOSE VALUE. IT’S NOT IN YOUR WALLET WHERE IT COULD GET STOLEN.
IT’S IN THE MODERN BANKING SYSTEM, THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY.
BUT BANKS DO FAIL AND PEOPLE DO LOSE MONEY.
GIVEN THE MEDIA STORM AROUND THE FAILURES OF SILICON VALLEY AND SIGNATURE BANKS, IT’D BE FAIR TO THINK, WOW THIS MUST NOT HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
BUT IT HAPPENS NEARLY EVERY YEAR.
MORE THAN 500 BANKS HAVE FAILED SINCE THE YEAR 2000.
AND WHILE NOT A PENNY OF INSURED FUNDS HAS BEEN LOST IN THE HISTORY OF THE FDIC – DEPOSITORS DON’T ALWAYS GET *ALL* THEIR MONEY BACK.
WE ASKED THE FDIC FOR A LIST OF FAILED BANKS WHERE UNINSURED DEPOSITORS LOST MONEY. AND GOT A LIST OF 76 INSTITUTIONS DATING BACK TO 1993.
SOME OF THOSE LOSSES ARE RELATIVELY SMALL. OF THE MORE THAN 30 MILLION IN DEPOSITS AT FAILED ENLOE STATE BANK, ABOUT 461-THOUSAND DOLLARS OF CUSTOMER MONEY WAS UNINSURED. AND 61% OF THAT WAS LOST FOR GOOD.
BUT WHEN, FOR INSTANCE, THE COLUMBIAN BANK AND TRUST COMPANY WENT UNDER, SO DID 95% OF UNINSURED DEPOSITS TOTALING MORE THAN 25 MILLION.
SO WHY – IF BANK FAILURES HAPPEN NEARLY EVERY YEAR, ARE SVB AND SIGNATURE DEMANDING SO MUCH ATTENTION AND CONTAGION?
IT’S PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE SHEER SIZE OF THE BANKS.
THE TOTAL ASSETS OF THESE TWO FAILED BANKS NEARLY MATCH THE ASSETS OF ALL FAILED BANKS IN 2008.
BUT UNLIKE SOME BEFORE THEM, NO ONE LOST A DIME.
ERIC FOSTER IS THE CEO OF WOOP INSURANCE, A VENTURE-CAPITAL-BACKED STARTUP THAT BANKED WITH SILICON VALLEY BANK.
ERIC FOSTER: It became evidently clear that by Thursday night, there was a run on it. So then we were like, Alright, let’s see if we can get the money out because there is a run on and we don’t know what’s going to happen from that. But at that point, it was too late.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: WITH MILLIONS IN UNINSURED FUNDS LOCKED AWAY AND ABOUT 25 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AWAITING PAYROLL – FOSTER WENT INTO FIX-IT MODE. BUT WITHIN DAYS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED CUSTOMERS WOULD GET FULL ACCESS TO THEIR FUNDS. AND WOOP INSURANCE DECIDED TO STICK WITH THE FEDERALLY-CONTROLLED SVB.
ERIC FOSTER: I still feel safe, if anything, I more so trust the American government for stepping in as they did, and the reality was like, did I have a few really crappy days? What is the downside outside of the handful of days and additional work for me, I did not lose a single dollar nor did my business lose a single dollar outside of the time spent? I think there should have been more tighter regulation on how those assets are managed. Like not to go into details. But why are you investing in a 10 year T note when you know, the average cycle span for a VC is 18 to 24 months when someone gets in their money to when they need to need a new flood of cash that is just flat out illogical to me.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: THE FDIC’S DEPOSIT INSURANCE FUND IS TAKING A $20 BILLION DOLLAR HIT OVER SVB’S FAILURE.
AND NOW, SVB HAS A NEW NAME. REGIONAL NORTH CAROLINA-BASED FIRST CITIZENS IS TAKING OVER – GETTING $56.5 BILLION IN SVB’S DEPOSITS AND $72 BILLION IN LOANS AT A $16.5 BILLION DOLLAR DISCOUNT.
ACCORDING TO A SPOKESPERSON, FIRST CITIZENS IS NOT NEW TO THIS. THEY’VE ACQUIRED MORE THAN 20 FDIC-INSURED BANKS SINCE 2009. AND ITS LATEST SNAG MOVES IT INTO ONE OF THE TOP 15 U-S BANKS, ACCORDING TO BLOOMBERG INTELLIGENCE.
BUT WILL IT BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TECH STARTUPS LIKE WOOP INSURANCE THAT BANKED WITH SVB? COMPANY CO-FOUNDER ERIC FOSTER TOLD US ABOUT TROUBLES WITH REGIONAL EAST COAST BANKS THAT DROVE HIM TO S-V-B IN THE FIRST PLACE.
ERIC FOSTER: Every time I had to wire something it came up as fraudulent. Because we had huge sums of money come in, come into us with basically no real reason for it outside of yes, we are venture capital backed that is what the industry is, and then huge sums of money outflow in a really short period of time. My literal line before, is commercial banking was the bane of my existence, because I would spend days just doing normal business transactions, and it had to actually be me to get physically had to be the CEO of the company. So the reason why I went there is because, hey, we knew we had the money, there was a, there is a reputation of being easy. And frankly, when I got there, I was like, wow, this is a lot easier than everyone else.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: AND NOW BILLIONS ARE AT STAKE IN HOW FIRST CITIZENS ADAPTS TO ITS NEW, HUGE TECH BASE. FOR NOW, FOSTER TELLS US – HE’S STICKING WITH THEM.
FRANK HOLDING JR.: Silicon Valley Bank brings to us, overlaps our strengths in private banking, wealth management, and small business banking. what we look forward to learning and listening to is their market expertise in serving the tech and venture market and we’ll be adding a lot of associates with that capability.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: AS FIRST CITIZENS GOBBLES UP ITS LATEST BANK – A NEW STUDY RELEASED THIS MONTH SHOWS 186 BANKS ARE VULNERABLE TO THE SAME RISK THAT TOOK DOWN SVB.
RESEARCHERS FROM THE NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH SAY IN A WORKING PAPER THAT EVEN IF *HALF OF UNINSURED DEPOSITORS AT BANKS TOOK THEIR MONEY AND RAN, 186 WOULD HAVE TROUBLE STAYING AFLOAT FOR EVEN THEIR INSURED DEPOSITORS.
HAL LAMBERT: You’ve got to figure with that number. You’re going to have one or two at least more banks that are going to have similar problems to Silicon Valley. And then what’s the, what’s the Fed going to do? Are they going to let depositors at those banks lose their money and start picking winners and losers at the regional bank level.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: IF A WIDESPREAD BANK RUN HAPPENED AND THE FDIC SHUT DOWN THESE BANKS, THE PAPER SUGGESTS THERE’D BE NO INSURANCE FUNDS LEFT OVER FOR REMAINING UNINSURED DEPOSITORS, MEANING THE DECISION TO RUN WOULD HAVE BEEN A RATIONAL ONE.
AND WHY THE GOVERNMENT IS KEEN ON EARLY INTERVENTION.
JEROME POWELL: The banking system is sound and it’s resilient. It’s got strong capital and liquidity. We took powerful actions with Treasury in the FDIC, which demonstrate that all depositors savings are safe into the banking system is safe. Deposit flows in the banking system have stabilized over the last week. And the last thing I’ll say is that we’ve undertaken, we’re undertaking a thorough internal review that will identify where we can strengthen supervision and regulation.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: BUT IS IT TIME FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO RECONSIDER HOW MUCH OF YOUR BANK DEPOSITS ARE INSURED? RIGHT NOW IT’S $250-K. BUT LET’S GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS REPORT. PEOPLE OFTEN ASSUME THEIR MONEY, ALL OF THEIR MONEY, IS SAFE IN THE BANK.
ERIC FOSTER: If you really only believe that you have $250,000, that’s going to be safe in there, not only will you not deposit it, people are not going to spend money nearly as much that money will not be reinvested in the economy, because banks can’t loan it out to other businesses or other people.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: SOME ARE CALLING FOR THE FDIC CAP TO BE RAISED. IT WENT FROM 100K TO 250 DURING THE 2008 FINANCIAL CRISIS.
SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN: I think that lifting the FDIC insurance cap is a good move. Now the question is where’s the right number. Is it $2 million? Is it $5 million? Is it $10 million? Small businesses need to be able to count on getting their money to make payroll.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: FORMER FDIC CHAIR BILL ISAAC TELLS ME – HE’S NOT A FAN.
WILLIAM ISAAC: I think that would be a horrible idea and would destroy the free enterprise system that we have developed and the banking system that supports it.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: HERE’S HIS COUNTER PROPOSAL.
WILLIAM ISAAC: What we wanted to do was to put full insurance, full 100% deposit insurance on all business checking accounts that did not pay interest. The notion that small businesses need their checking account money available to them at all times, under almost all circumstances is absolutely correct. and it would be a huge benefit to our country or nation and the small business sector of the nation in particular, if we would protect non-interest bearing business checking account.
ERIC FOSTER: Clearly, I’m biased that I’m going to like that proposal, particularly given the current environment, I would say I don’t think there is, to my knowledge, a downside in doing that.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: LET’S GET THE CONVERSATION GOING IN THE COMMENTS…WHAT SURPRISED YOU IN THIS REPORT? AND STICK WITH STRAIGHT ARROW NEWS FOR MORE BANKING CRISIS COVERAGE. I’M SIMONE DEL ROSARIO, IN NEW YORK, IT’S JUST BUSINESS.
Simone Del Rosario:
IT’S BEEN 5 MONTHS SINCE ELON MUSK SPENT $44 BILLION TO BUY TWITTER AND TAKE IT PRIVATE. DO YOU THINK IT’S MORE OR LESS OF A CESSPOOL NOW? HERE ARE THE WAYS HE’S CHANGED THE PLATFORM IN THIS WEEK’S FIVE FOR FRIDAY.
THE END IS NEAR…BEFORE ELON, THE VERIFIED CHECK SIGNIFIED AN ELITE GROUP OF USERS. JUST ASK EM, THEY WERE THE ONES OOZING SELF IMPORTANCE. BUT TWITTER BLUE MADE IT SO ANYONE WILLING TO SHELL OUT 8 TO 11 BUCKS A MONTH CAN GET THAT SPECIAL SIGN. BLUE USERS CAN ALSO EDIT TWEETS, GET EARLY ACCESS TO NEW FEATURES, AND WILL EVENTUALLY GET FEWER ADS. AS A LEGACY BLUE CHECK, I GOTTA LIVE WITH THE FACT THAT I “MAY OR MAY NOT BE NOTABLE.” AND MUSK SAYS HE’LL START TAKING AWAY CHECKMARKS LIKE MINE ON APRIL FIRST.
SPEAKING OF CHECKMARKS, MUSK JUST ANNOUNCED THAT SOON, ONLY VERIFIED ACCOUNTS ARE GONNA SHOW UP IN TWITTER’S “FOR YOU” SECTION. HE CLAIMS IT’S THE ONLY WAY TO COMBAT BOTS TAKING OVER THE PLATFORM. YOU’LL NEED A BLUE CHECK TO WEIGH IN ON TWITTER POLLS TOO. MAYBE HE’S ONTO SOMETHING HERE. DO YOU REALLY THINK A SINGLE BOT RUNNER’S GONNA PAY 8 GRAND A MONTH TO HAVE A THOUSAND ACCOUNTS PUSHING CRYPTO?
OVER THE YEARS TWITTER BANNED A BUNCH OF CONTROVERSIAL FIGURES. WHEN MUSK TOOK OVER, HE WANTED TO START FRESH AND REINSTATED FOLKS LIKE KICKBOXER ANDREW TATE, WHO IS WIDELY FOLLOWED FOR, EHHH, MISOGYNY? AWESOME. HE LATER GOT DUNKED ON BY CLIMATE ACTIVIST GRETA THUNBERG BEFORE BEING ARRESTED IN ROMANIA ON SEX TRAFFICKING CHARGES. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO GOT HIS ACCOUNT BACK AFTER BEING BANNED FOLLOWING JANUARY SIXTH, BUT HE DOESN’T NEED TWITTER, HE’S GOT THE TRUTH. OH. AND YE’S REINSTATEMENT DIDN’T LAST LONG.
SHORTLY AFTER TAKING OVER MUSK GOT RID OF THE PLATFORM’S TRUST AND SAFETY COUNCIL. IT WAS A GROUP OF 100 INDEPENDENT ADVISORS CREATED IN 2016 TO DEAL WITH HATE SPEECH, CHILD EXPLOITATION AND SELF-HARM AMONG OTHER THINGS. JUST BEFORE MUSK MADE THE MOVE, THERE WERE ALREADY STUDIES SHOWING HATE SPEECH SPIKED AFTER HIS TAKEOVER. BUT MUSK CLAIMS THEY’VE NOW DEFEATED THE HATE BOTS, THOUGH INDEPENDENT ANALYSES SAY OTHERWISE.
FINALLY, MUSK’S TWITTER HAS BEEN WAY MORE TRANSPARENT THAN THE PREVIOUS REGIME…TAPPING INDEPENDENT JOURNALISTS LIKE MATT TAIBBI AND BARI WEISS TO REPORT ON THE TWITTER FILES. THE SERIES HAS COVERED EVERYTHING FROM TWITTER’S MODERATION OF THE HUNTER BIDEN NEW YORK POST STORY TO JANUARY 6TH, TO COVID, TO TWITTER’S DEALINGS WITH THE GOVERNMENT. OH AND FOR YOU CODERS, AND GET READY TO DIG THROUGH THAT ALGORITHM.
THAT’S FIVE FOR FRIDAY. FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER, HEY WHO WROTE IN THAT SHAMELESS PLUG? I’M @SIMONEREPORTS. IT’S JUST BUSINESS.
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ERIC FOSTER: If I thought that was a risk, I would have immediately mitigated the risk. That was not even a smidge of a thought in my head.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: SILICON VALLEY BANK MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE WEST.
BUT IT’S NOT THE WILD WEST – WHERE BANK BANDITS COULD MAKE OFF WITH YOUR HARD-EARNED CASH.
I’D ARGUE NOW, WHEN PEOPLE DEPOSIT MONEY IN THE BANK, IT’S BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT’S THE SAFEST PLACE IT COULD BE.
IT’S NOT IN AN INVESTMENT THAT COULD LOSE VALUE. IT’S NOT IN YOUR WALLET WHERE IT COULD GET STOLEN.
IT’S IN THE MODERN BANKING SYSTEM, THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY.
BUT BANKS DO FAIL AND PEOPLE DO LOSE MONEY.
GIVEN THE MEDIA STORM AROUND THE FAILURES OF SILICON VALLEY AND SIGNATURE BANKS, IT’D BE FAIR TO THINK, WOW THIS MUST NOT HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
BUT IT HAPPENS NEARLY EVERY YEAR.
MORE THAN 500 BANKS HAVE FAILED SINCE THE YEAR 2000.
AND WHILE NOT A PENNY OF INSURED FUNDS HAS BEEN LOST IN THE HISTORY OF THE FDIC – DEPOSITORS DON’T ALWAYS GET *ALL* THEIR MONEY BACK.
WE ASKED THE FDIC FOR A LIST OF FAILED BANKS WHERE UNINSURED DEPOSITORS LOST MONEY. AND GOT A LIST OF 76 INSTITUTIONS DATING BACK TO 1993.
SOME OF THOSE LOSSES ARE RELATIVELY SMALL. OF THE MORE THAN 30 MILLION IN DEPOSITS AT FAILED ENLOE STATE BANK, ABOUT 461-THOUSAND DOLLARS OF CUSTOMER MONEY WAS UNINSURED. AND 61% OF THAT WAS LOST FOR GOOD.
BUT WHEN, FOR INSTANCE, THE COLUMBIAN BANK AND TRUST COMPANY WENT UNDER, SO DID 95% OF UNINSURED DEPOSITS TOTALING MORE THAN 25 MILLION.
SO WHY – IF BANK FAILURES HAPPEN NEARLY EVERY YEAR, ARE SVB AND SIGNATURE DEMANDING SO MUCH ATTENTION AND CONTAGION?
IT’S PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE SHEER SIZE OF THE BANKS.
THE TOTAL ASSETS OF THESE TWO FAILED BANKS NEARLY MATCH THE ASSETS OF ALL FAILED BANKS IN 2008.
BUT UNLIKE SOME BEFORE THEM, NO ONE LOST A DIME.
ERIC FOSTER IS THE CEO OF WOOP INSURANCE, A VENTURE-CAPITAL-BACKED STARTUP THAT BANKED WITH SILICON VALLEY BANK.
ERIC FOSTER: It became evidently clear that by Thursday night, there was a run on it. So then we were like, Alright, let’s see if we can get the money out because there is a run on and we don’t know what’s going to happen from that. But at that point, it was too late.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: WITH MILLIONS IN UNINSURED FUNDS LOCKED AWAY AND ABOUT 25 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AWAITING PAYROLL – FOSTER WENT INTO FIX-IT MODE. BUT WITHIN DAYS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED CUSTOMERS WOULD GET FULL ACCESS TO THEIR FUNDS. AND WOOP INSURANCE DECIDED TO STICK WITH THE FEDERALLY-CONTROLLED SVB.
ERIC FOSTER: I still feel safe, if anything, I more so trust the American government for stepping in as they did, and the reality was like, did I have a few really crappy days? What is the downside outside of the handful of days and additional work for me, I did not lose a single dollar nor did my business lose a single dollar outside of the time spent? I think there should have been more tighter regulation on how those assets are managed. Like not to go into details. But why are you investing in a 10 year T note when you know, the average cycle span for a VC is 18 to 24 months when someone gets in their money to when they need to need a new flood of cash that is just flat out illogical to me.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: THE FDIC’S DEPOSIT INSURANCE FUND IS TAKING A $20 BILLION DOLLAR HIT OVER SVB’S FAILURE.
AND NOW, SVB HAS A NEW NAME. REGIONAL NORTH CAROLINA-BASED FIRST CITIZENS IS TAKING OVER – GETTING $56.5 BILLION IN SVB’S DEPOSITS AND $72 BILLION IN LOANS AT A $16.5 BILLION DOLLAR DISCOUNT.
ACCORDING TO A SPOKESPERSON, FIRST CITIZENS IS NOT NEW TO THIS. THEY’VE ACQUIRED MORE THAN 20 FDIC-INSURED BANKS SINCE 2009. AND ITS LATEST SNAG MOVES IT INTO ONE OF THE TOP 15 U-S BANKS, ACCORDING TO BLOOMBERG INTELLIGENCE.
BUT WILL IT BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TECH STARTUPS LIKE WOOP INSURANCE THAT BANKED WITH SVB? COMPANY CO-FOUNDER ERIC FOSTER TOLD US ABOUT TROUBLES WITH REGIONAL EAST COAST BANKS THAT DROVE HIM TO S-V-B IN THE FIRST PLACE.
ERIC FOSTER: Every time I had to wire something it came up as fraudulent. Because we had huge sums of money come in, come into us with basically no real reason for it outside of yes, we are venture capital backed that is what the industry is, and then huge sums of money outflow in a really short period of time. My literal line before, is commercial banking was the bane of my existence, because I would spend days just doing normal business transactions, and it had to actually be me to get physically had to be the CEO of the company. So the reason why I went there is because, hey, we knew we had the money, there was a, there is a reputation of being easy. And frankly, when I got there, I was like, wow, this is a lot easier than everyone else.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: AND NOW BILLIONS ARE AT STAKE IN HOW FIRST CITIZENS ADAPTS TO ITS NEW, HUGE TECH BASE. FOR NOW, FOSTER TELLS US – HE’S STICKING WITH THEM.
FRANK HOLDING JR.: Silicon Valley Bank brings to us, overlaps our strengths in private banking, wealth management, and small business banking. what we look forward to learning and listening to is their market expertise in serving the tech and venture market and we’ll be adding a lot of associates with that capability.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: AS FIRST CITIZENS GOBBLES UP ITS LATEST BANK – A NEW STUDY RELEASED THIS MONTH SHOWS 186 BANKS ARE VULNERABLE TO THE SAME RISK THAT TOOK DOWN SVB.
RESEARCHERS FROM THE NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH SAY IN A WORKING PAPER THAT EVEN IF *HALF OF UNINSURED DEPOSITORS AT BANKS TOOK THEIR MONEY AND RAN, 186 WOULD HAVE TROUBLE STAYING AFLOAT FOR EVEN THEIR INSURED DEPOSITORS.
HAL LAMBERT: You’ve got to figure with that number. You’re going to have one or two at least more banks that are going to have similar problems to Silicon Valley. And then what’s the, what’s the Fed going to do? Are they going to let depositors at those banks lose their money and start picking winners and losers at the regional bank level.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: IF A WIDESPREAD BANK RUN HAPPENED AND THE FDIC SHUT DOWN THESE BANKS, THE PAPER SUGGESTS THERE’D BE NO INSURANCE FUNDS LEFT OVER FOR REMAINING UNINSURED DEPOSITORS, MEANING THE DECISION TO RUN WOULD HAVE BEEN A RATIONAL ONE.
AND WHY THE GOVERNMENT IS KEEN ON EARLY INTERVENTION.
JEROME POWELL: The banking system is sound and it’s resilient. It’s got strong capital and liquidity. We took powerful actions with Treasury in the FDIC, which demonstrate that all depositors savings are safe into the banking system is safe. Deposit flows in the banking system have stabilized over the last week. And the last thing I’ll say is that we’ve undertaken, we’re undertaking a thorough internal review that will identify where we can strengthen supervision and regulation.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: BUT IS IT TIME FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO RECONSIDER HOW MUCH OF YOUR BANK DEPOSITS ARE INSURED? RIGHT NOW IT’S $250-K. BUT LET’S GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS REPORT. PEOPLE OFTEN ASSUME THEIR MONEY, ALL OF THEIR MONEY, IS SAFE IN THE BANK.
ERIC FOSTER: If you really only believe that you have $250,000, that’s going to be safe in there, not only will you not deposit it, people are not going to spend money nearly as much that money will not be reinvested in the economy, because banks can’t loan it out to other businesses or other people.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: SOME ARE CALLING FOR THE FDIC CAP TO BE RAISED. IT WENT FROM 100K TO 250 DURING THE 2008 FINANCIAL CRISIS.
SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN: I think that lifting the FDIC insurance cap is a good move. Now the question is where’s the right number. Is it $2 million? Is it $5 million? Is it $10 million? Small businesses need to be able to count on getting their money to make payroll.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: FORMER FDIC CHAIR BILL ISAAC TELLS ME – HE’S NOT A FAN.
WILLIAM ISAAC: I think that would be a horrible idea and would destroy the free enterprise system that we have developed and the banking system that supports it.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: HERE’S HIS COUNTER PROPOSAL.
WILLIAM ISAAC: What we wanted to do was to put full insurance, full 100% deposit insurance on all business checking accounts that did not pay interest. The notion that small businesses need their checking account money available to them at all times, under almost all circumstances is absolutely correct. and it would be a huge benefit to our country or nation and the small business sector of the nation in particular, if we would protect non-interest bearing business checking account.
ERIC FOSTER: Clearly, I’m biased that I’m going to like that proposal, particularly given the current environment, I would say I don’t think there is, to my knowledge, a downside in doing that.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: LET’S GET THE CONVERSATION GOING IN THE COMMENTS…WHAT SURPRISED YOU IN THIS REPORT? AND STICK WITH STRAIGHT ARROW NEWS FOR MORE BANKING CRISIS COVERAGE. I’M SIMONE DEL ROSARIO, IN NEW YORK, IT’S JUST BUSINESS.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: IS IT TIME FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO RECONSIDER HOW MUCH OF YOUR BANK DEPOSITS ARE INSURED? RIGHT NOW IT’S $250-K. BUT PEOPLE OFTEN ASSUME ALL OF THEIR MONEY IS SAFE IN THE BANK.
ERIC FOSTER, CO-FOUNDER, WOOP INSURANCE: If you really only believe that you have $250,000, that’s going to be safe in there, not only will you not deposit it, people are not going to spend money nearly as much that money will not be reinvested in the economy, because banks can’t loan it out to other businesses or other people.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: SOME ARE CALLING FOR THE FDIC CAP TO BE RAISED. IT WENT FROM 100K TO 250 DURING THE 2008 FINANCIAL CRISIS.
SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN: I think that lifting the FDIC insurance cap is a good move. Now the question is where’s the right number? Is it $2 million? Is it $5 million? Is it $10 million? Small businesses need to be able to count on getting their money to make payroll.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: FORMER FDIC CHAIR BILL ISAAC TELLS ME – HE’S NOT A FAN.
WILLIAM ISAAC, FORMER FDIC CHAIR: I think that would be a horrible idea and would destroy the free enterprise system that we have developed and the banking system that supports it.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: HERE’S HIS COUNTER PROPOSAL.
WILLIAM ISAAC, FORMER FDIC CHAIR: What we wanted to do was to put full insurance, full 100% deposit insurance on all business checking accounts that did not pay interest. The notion that small businesses need their checking account money available to them at all times, under almost all circumstances is absolutely correct. and it would be a huge benefit to our country or nation and the small business sector of the nation in particular, if we would protect non-interest bearing business checking account.
ERIC FOSTER, CO-FOUNDER, WOOP INSURANCE: Clearly, I’m biased that I’m going to like that proposal, particularly given the current current environment, I would say I don’t think there is, to my knowledge, a downside in doing that.
ERIC FOSTER, CO-FOUNDER, WOOP INSURANCE: If I thought that was a risk, I would have immediately mitigated the risk. That was not even a smidge of a thought in my head.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: SILICON VALLEY BANK MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE WEST. BUT IT’S NOT THE WILD WEST – WHERE BANK BANDITS COULD MAKE OFF WITH YOUR HARD-EARNED CASH.
I’D ARGUE NOW, WHEN PEOPLE DEPOSIT MONEY IN THE BANK, IT’S BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT’S THE SAFEST PLACE IT COULD BE.
IT’S NOT IN AN INVESTMENT THAT COULD LOSE VALUE. IT’S NOT IN YOUR WALLET WHERE IT COULD GET STOLEN.
IT’S IN THE MODERN BANKING SYSTEM, THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY.
BUT BANKS DO FAIL AND PEOPLE DO LOSE MONEY.
GIVEN THE MEDIA STORM AROUND THE FAILURES OF SILICON VALLEY AND SIGNATURE BANKS, IT’D BE FAIR TO THINK, WOW THIS MUST NOT HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
BUT IT HAPPENS NEARLY EVERY YEAR.
MORE THAN 500 BANKS HAVE FAILED SINCE THE YEAR 2000.
AND WHILE NOT A PENNY OF *INSURED* FUNDS HAS BEEN LOST IN THE HISTORY OF THE FDIC – DEPOSITORS DON’T ALWAYS GET *ALL* THEIR MONEY BACK.
WE ASKED THE FDIC FOR A LIST OF FAILED BANKS WHERE UNINSURED DEPOSITORS LOST MONEY. AND GOT A LIST OF 76 INSTITUTIONS DATING BACK TO 1993.
SOME OF THOSE LOSSES ARE RELATIVELY SMALL. OF THE MORE THAN 30 MILLION IN DEPOSITS AT FAILED ENLOE STATE BANK, ABOUT 461-THOUSAND DOLLARS OF CUSTOMER MONEY WAS UNINSURED. AND 61% OF THAT WAS LOST FOR GOOD.
BUT WHEN, FOR INSTANCE, THE COLUMBIAN BANK AND TRUST COMPANY WENT UNDER, SO DID 95% OF UNINSURED DEPOSITS TOTALING MORE THAN 25 MILLION.
SO WHY – IF BANK FAILURES HAPPEN NEARLY EVERY YEAR, ARE SVB AND SIGNATURE DEMANDING SO MUCH ATTENTION AND CONTAGION?
IT’S PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE SHEER SIZE OF THE BANKS.
THE TOTAL ASSETS OF THESE TWO FAILED BANKS NEARLY MATCH THE ASSETS OF ALL FAILED BANKS IN 2008.
BUT UNLIKE SOME BEFORE THEM, NO ONE LOST A DIME.
ERIC FOSTER IS THE CEO OF WOOP INSURANCE, A VENTURE-CAPITAL-BACKED STARTUP THAT BANKED WITH SILICON VALLEY BANK.
ERIC FOSTER: It became evidently clear that by Thursday night, there was a run on it. So then we were like, Alright, let’s see if we can get the money out because there is a run on and we don’t know what’s going to happen from that. But at that point, it was too late.
SIMONE DEL ROSARIO: WITH MILLIONS IN UNINSURED FUNDS LOCKED AWAY AND ABOUT 25 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AWAITING PAYROLL – FOSTER WENT INTO FIX-IT MODE. BUT WITHIN DAYS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED CUSTOMERS WOULD GET FULL ACCESS TO THEIR FUNDS. AND WOOP INSURANCE DECIDED TO STICK WITH THE FEDERALLY-CONTROLLED SVB.
ERIC FOSTER: I still feel safe, if anything, I more so trust the American government for stepping in as they did, and the reality was like, did I have a few really crappy days? What is the downside outside of the handful of days and additional work for me, I did not lose a single dollar nor did my business lose a single dollar outside of the time spent? I think there should have been more tighter regulation on how those assets are managed. Like not to go into details. But why are you investing in a 10 year T note when you know, the average cycle span for a VC is 18 to 24 months when someone gets in their money to when they need to need a new flood of cash that is just flat out illogical to me.