Hey everybody, Peter Zion here coming to you from Colorado and the new news out of China as they’re facing a kind of a triple economic funk. For those of you who have been following China for a while, you know that they’ve never really recovered from COVID. Whereas nearly every other country in the world wants, the opening finally happened. And the end of the epidemic was declared, we saw an explosion in consumption as people tried to get back to some version of their life, which generated a lot of inflation. We’ve not seen that in China, growth is actually lower now than it was over the course of the last two years when they were supposedly under complete. Lockdown, consumption is down imports and exports both dropped in July compared to a year earlier by double digits of percentages was normally the sort of stuff you only see out of a country like say, Ukraine or Russia when a war starts. And this is happening when the Chinese are supposedly getting back to normal. Now, a lot has gone down since the opening chapters of COVID in China, which date back to the fourth quarter of 2019. But something to remember is that we saw a demographic bomb go off in China before COVID. Going back to his earliest 2017, the demographics really turned negative from 2017 to 2021, the birth rate dropped by about 40%. And even in the months before COVID, we saw new car sales, which are kind of the quintessential indication that your population is kind of up and coming and feels confident about its future and spent a lot of money going negative, and they’ve never really recovered. So now after COVID, we’ve had all of these trends with for five, six years behind them. And as they’re manifesting in a more normal environment, the numbers are really, really, really bad. Now, for folks who are not familiar with demographics, this is probably a little bit of news, for those of you who are familiar, not too much of a surprise. But the very, very short version is that most of the consumption on a modern system happens when you’re in your 20s and your 30s. When you’re buying cars and raising kids and building homes. Well, because the one child policy, Chinese don’t have much of a generation in that black at all. And since the one child policy is now over 40 years old, we’ve now had a full generation of people to not have kids. And that has manifested in the data as well. Anyway, that’s kind of problem one, Problem two Hubway. deflation. Now in the United States, in Europe, in most of the developing world, whether it’s India, Brazil, Indonesia, with arrest, the opening of COVID was accompanied by a huge burst of inflation, people were trying to consume again to get back to some version of their normal lives. And over the last two to three years, their consumption patterns had changed. Instead of buying cars or homes, they were buying computers and phones to in order to adapt to the new reality. Well, now they’re shifting back, and supply chains take about 18 months to catch up. Now in the United States, it has been 18 months now since the last state to reopen, California did so. And so we’re seeing inflation incrementally drop as it has been for the last year. This is broadly what you should expect. In China, things are going the opposite direction, the consumption boom never happened. So supply chains never had to adjust. What has happened is people are less confident in their future. So they’re consuming less. And we’re seeing mounting trade wars out of Europe, Japan, the United States, and increasingly secondary states like the Koreans are joining in. And that means the Chinese have fewer places to send stuff to. So what’s happening is product that was normally produced for export from China is now being locked up within the Chinese system at the same time that the population is purchasing less, you have an oversupply of good of goods and under demand both at home and abroad. With all those extra goods prices go down and you get deflation. Now, short bursts of deflation are no big deal. So I don’t want to overstate what’s happening here. It’s only one month of data at present. But this is what we would expect when you’re at the beginning of a deflationary spiral that’s caused by a fundamental mismatch between supply and demand, which is where we are going with D globalization and the Chinese demographic trends which are now well past the point of no return. The last country to face a major deflation burst was Japan started in the late 1990s. lasted for 2025 years, you could argue that it might be over now because of their COVID reassertion of demand that might be over optimistic. But the issue is once those prices start to drop, because of that mismatch between supply and demand, it’s devilishly hard to adjust, because normally, you would do one of two things. Number one, you could reduce supply, but that means closing productive capacity, which means people lose their jobs, which means they spend less, which means that mismatch persists. Or you can increase demand, usually with government stimulus. This might not work in China and not just because of the huge demographic bomb that’s going off. The Chinese economic system isn’t really based on exports or can assumption, it’s based on investment. The idea that the state Foster’s maths borrowing in order to build industrial plant infrastructure and the rest, that based on whose numbers you’re using is somewhere between 40 and 70%, of the entirety of the Chinese economy. And it’s generated the vast majority of economic growth going back 40 years, well, you can only do that for so long. Eventually, you don’t need any more bridges or any more factories. And I would argue the Chinese reached that point before COVID. So again, there’s been this three, four year lag between reality and the data finally manifesting, the point is, more spending probably isn’t going to help. The marginal outcome, the amount of growth they get, for every Yuan spent has been dropping steadily for 40 years. And now it’s in far less than one to one. So it really doesn’t matter how much more fuel and how much cheap capital the Chinese pumped into the system, it’s never going to generate more economic activity than what it cost to put it in the first place. This is what happened in Japan in the late 1990s. In the early 2000s. They had reached the point where their economic model couldn’t run any longer. They were getting basically negative income on their investments. And they had then 20 to 25 years of deflation. The advantage that the Japanese had going into this as they already had a global supply chain, they already had global allies, they had an option for offshoring, some of their manufacturing incrementally. They had strong demand that of the United States, they had a good political relationship with the United States. And most of all, they were already rich. The average Chinese citizen today in inflation index terms compared to the average Japanese citizen in the year 2000. Has an income that’s something like a quarter or a fifth, what it is in China, they’re getting old, and they’re getting into a permanent recession and a deflationary spiral long before they got rich. And this can end in any number of horrible ways. So again, one month of data, I do not want to overplay this, but I’ve been watching for something like this for several years now. And in the post COVID environment, we’re seeing the data belatedly match up with where demographics and geopolitical trends suggest that it should have been years ago. If this proves to be the actual story, as opposed to a blip in the data, you’re gonna see this get significantly worse in a relatively short period of time, because we have years of compressed damage that is now bursting out all at once. And because the political system in China is basically down to one man called a personality, the capacity of the Chinese state to come up with a creative solution is almost zero. And even in Japan, where they were willing to talk about this publicly. It still took a generation to pull out of this, and alliances and the Chinese don’t have either. All right. That’s it for me. Take care.
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Analysts are raising concerns about deflationary trends in China’s economy. Joe Biden, in fact, called the world’s second-largest economy a “ticking time bomb.” Recent data indicates a decline in consumer and producer prices for China in July. This is the first time since November 2020, when the COVID-19 pandemic was at its peak, that both indexes have shown a negative trend.
Straight Arrow News contributor Peter Zeihan analyzes this development and raises a cautionary flag. He points out that if this data isn’t just an anomaly, China’s economy could enter a rapid downward spiral in the near future.
Excerpted from Peter’s Aug. 11 “Zeihan on Geopolitics” newsletter:
The current Chinese system has been staring down the barrel of a number of serious challenges for quite a while now, and this new economic data just took the safety off that gun.
Between the demographic bomb that went off a few years ago and the lack of a post-COVID recovery, it’s no surprise that China is facing an economic funk. However, years and years of compressed economic damage are on the brink of bursting out and wreaking havoc on the entire Chinese system.
That’s right; we’re talking about deflation. This is only one month of data, so I don’t want to blow this up quite yet…but consumption has plummeted, there are ongoing trade wars, an oversupply of goods and undersupply of demand in both domestic and foreign markets, and that’s not even the whole picture.
We saw deflation take over Japan in the 90s, and it took them nearly 25 years to pull themselves out of it. The Japanese situation was leaps and bounds better than China’s current situation, so if this data is even partially indicative of China’s economic future, we could be looking at the beginning of the end.
Hey everybody, Peter Zion here coming to you from Colorado and the new news out of China as they’re facing a kind of a triple economic funk. For those of you who have been following China for a while, you know that they’ve never really recovered from COVID. Whereas nearly every other country in the world wants, the opening finally happened. And the end of the epidemic was declared, we saw an explosion in consumption as people tried to get back to some version of their life, which generated a lot of inflation. We’ve not seen that in China, growth is actually lower now than it was over the course of the last two years when they were supposedly under complete. Lockdown, consumption is down imports and exports both dropped in July compared to a year earlier by double digits of percentages was normally the sort of stuff you only see out of a country like say, Ukraine or Russia when a war starts. And this is happening when the Chinese are supposedly getting back to normal. Now, a lot has gone down since the opening chapters of COVID in China, which date back to the fourth quarter of 2019. But something to remember is that we saw a demographic bomb go off in China before COVID. Going back to his earliest 2017, the demographics really turned negative from 2017 to 2021, the birth rate dropped by about 40%. And even in the months before COVID, we saw new car sales, which are kind of the quintessential indication that your population is kind of up and coming and feels confident about its future and spent a lot of money going negative, and they’ve never really recovered. So now after COVID, we’ve had all of these trends with for five, six years behind them. And as they’re manifesting in a more normal environment, the numbers are really, really, really bad. Now, for folks who are not familiar with demographics, this is probably a little bit of news, for those of you who are familiar, not too much of a surprise. But the very, very short version is that most of the consumption on a modern system happens when you’re in your 20s and your 30s. When you’re buying cars and raising kids and building homes. Well, because the one child policy, Chinese don’t have much of a generation in that black at all. And since the one child policy is now over 40 years old, we’ve now had a full generation of people to not have kids. And that has manifested in the data as well. Anyway, that’s kind of problem one, Problem two Hubway. deflation. Now in the United States, in Europe, in most of the developing world, whether it’s India, Brazil, Indonesia, with arrest, the opening of COVID was accompanied by a huge burst of inflation, people were trying to consume again to get back to some version of their normal lives. And over the last two to three years, their consumption patterns had changed. Instead of buying cars or homes, they were buying computers and phones to in order to adapt to the new reality. Well, now they’re shifting back, and supply chains take about 18 months to catch up. Now in the United States, it has been 18 months now since the last state to reopen, California did so. And so we’re seeing inflation incrementally drop as it has been for the last year. This is broadly what you should expect. In China, things are going the opposite direction, the consumption boom never happened. So supply chains never had to adjust. What has happened is people are less confident in their future. So they’re consuming less. And we’re seeing mounting trade wars out of Europe, Japan, the United States, and increasingly secondary states like the Koreans are joining in. And that means the Chinese have fewer places to send stuff to. So what’s happening is product that was normally produced for export from China is now being locked up within the Chinese system at the same time that the population is purchasing less, you have an oversupply of good of goods and under demand both at home and abroad. With all those extra goods prices go down and you get deflation. Now, short bursts of deflation are no big deal. So I don’t want to overstate what’s happening here. It’s only one month of data at present. But this is what we would expect when you’re at the beginning of a deflationary spiral that’s caused by a fundamental mismatch between supply and demand, which is where we are going with D globalization and the Chinese demographic trends which are now well past the point of no return. The last country to face a major deflation burst was Japan started in the late 1990s. lasted for 2025 years, you could argue that it might be over now because of their COVID reassertion of demand that might be over optimistic. But the issue is once those prices start to drop, because of that mismatch between supply and demand, it’s devilishly hard to adjust, because normally, you would do one of two things. Number one, you could reduce supply, but that means closing productive capacity, which means people lose their jobs, which means they spend less, which means that mismatch persists. Or you can increase demand, usually with government stimulus. This might not work in China and not just because of the huge demographic bomb that’s going off. The Chinese economic system isn’t really based on exports or can assumption, it’s based on investment. The idea that the state Foster’s maths borrowing in order to build industrial plant infrastructure and the rest, that based on whose numbers you’re using is somewhere between 40 and 70%, of the entirety of the Chinese economy. And it’s generated the vast majority of economic growth going back 40 years, well, you can only do that for so long. Eventually, you don’t need any more bridges or any more factories. And I would argue the Chinese reached that point before COVID. So again, there’s been this three, four year lag between reality and the data finally manifesting, the point is, more spending probably isn’t going to help. The marginal outcome, the amount of growth they get, for every Yuan spent has been dropping steadily for 40 years. And now it’s in far less than one to one. So it really doesn’t matter how much more fuel and how much cheap capital the Chinese pumped into the system, it’s never going to generate more economic activity than what it cost to put it in the first place. This is what happened in Japan in the late 1990s. In the early 2000s. They had reached the point where their economic model couldn’t run any longer. They were getting basically negative income on their investments. And they had then 20 to 25 years of deflation. The advantage that the Japanese had going into this as they already had a global supply chain, they already had global allies, they had an option for offshoring, some of their manufacturing incrementally. They had strong demand that of the United States, they had a good political relationship with the United States. And most of all, they were already rich. The average Chinese citizen today in inflation index terms compared to the average Japanese citizen in the year 2000. Has an income that’s something like a quarter or a fifth, what it is in China, they’re getting old, and they’re getting into a permanent recession and a deflationary spiral long before they got rich. And this can end in any number of horrible ways. So again, one month of data, I do not want to overplay this, but I’ve been watching for something like this for several years now. 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